princeton hacks a diebold machine. tells how.

[JB88]

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i thought this was an interesting and decided to share.

i think that it is a worthwhile study and i hope that those who respond to this post will refrain from throwing out party line.

imho.  how we elect our leaders is important and its honesty is imperative.

but that's just me.

thanks.

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[Debonair]

rofl i just r34d that one of the companies that makes teh v0t1ng mashines wuz bought by venezuelans:noid

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Princeton did it the tricky way.
Let grandma Bev Harris show you the ridiculously easy way to steal an election.

[moot]

Look at the comments..
http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=FhMUtzOxjJY&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DFhMUtzOxjJY

[john9001]

so thats how Kerry got so many votes, i always wondered.

[Eagler]

so how are they gonna recount hacked electronic votes? LOL

[lasersailor184]

Nearly all of the places these machines are being put in are democratic counties.  The democratic leadership in those counties needed to make a concsious decision to put those machines in over the old ones.

[lukster]

The integrity of our voting system is absolutely essential. Hacking the voting machines makes little difference if we're gonna let ineligibles vote. What's all the fuss about a national ID card? Who here doesn't already have a driver's license? If you are opposed to a national ID please tell why and please make it more concrete than something nebulous about big brother.

[lukster]

A national ID with it's accompanying reference number could do much to eliminate fraud in voting. If there was suspected hacking of a voting machine or other voting fraud it would be a simple matter to confirm the actual vote with voters. To prevent folks from manipulating the system by lying about hacking, manadatory prison sentences for voter fraud.

[lukster]

Another idea, everyone has a voter ID card and reference number. Info linking an individual to their reference number is protected by law. After an election publish the results and all of the votes by reference number on the web. Everyone can then verify that their vote was properly counted.

[Gunthr]

Voter confidence is just as important to our country as Homeland Security IMHO.  

In early voting in S. Florida there was a glitch in a machine (verified by poll workers) wherein each time the Democratic voter made his selection, the machine registered a Republican vote!  

What the heck is this?  My daughter has a toy computer that will acurately register a key stroke 100 out of 100 times.  Why can't a voting machine do what a toy will do with complete accuracy?  Liberal conspiracy theorists feed on this kind of thing, and I can't blame them for jumping all over it.  

I think we need to spend whatever it takes to fix problems and create voter confidence, I think we ought to make national legislation to compell all voting in the country to be done the same way, on the same machines, selected, proven and acceptable to everyone.

While we're at it, throw out the plurality method of voting and institute the Condorcet method after educating the public, from elementary school on up.

I absolutely agree with voter ID.  Its preposterous to argue against it.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

The way it's done in europe is that each voter has to display a valid ID before entering the voting booth. You then vote anonymously, drop the vote in the ballot and they will be counted anonymously.

If a voting is done electronically WITH voter ID the vote is no longer anonymous and this is very very bad for freedom of selection. All sorts of pressure could (and would) be put on people who voted against the winning party, or more likely, voters would be pressured before the vote to vote in a certain way, knowing the naysayers could be tracked afterwards.

[Gunthr]

The way it's done in europe is that each voter has to display a valid ID before entering the voting booth. You then vote anonymously, drop the vote in the ballot and they will be counted anonymously. - Mr Ripley

 this is how I'd like to see done in the US...   I don't know if using electronic machines that store votes digitally is the best way, though, given the high levels of suspicion of political mischief.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I forgot to mention also that each voter has his voting district and he can usually only give his vote on a listed voting station. Every voter is registered and counted, but what they vote is naturally not traceable unless every person in the whole district would vote the same.

When the votes count, the amount of votes is matched against the registered votees. If there are too many votes, someone's been cheating.

[lasersailor184]

The problem is that when you have very political people running the counties and the polling stations, they can then control what happens.


And this is how half of all dead people end up voting.  Mostly for democrats at that.