Originally posted by Thrawn
What you don't realize is that I'm not one to sacrifice freedom for safety.
Thankfully the courts, full of people much wiser and learned than you, have already determined "the rules".. what you think you have sacrificed has already been gone for decades... mostly through case law.
With PC, officers can detain you for up to 30min, the courts have decided 30 min is reasonable. While detained you can be subject to a "cursory search", or pat down for weapons.. the courts have decided there must be a balance between citizens rights and officer safety. Any evidence found during a pat down is admissible, if you refuse you are subject to arrest per 148PC, period.
And the laws have been specifically written to address use of force, you might look at the Cali peace officers bill of rights, aka AB301, among others that recognize the police have a very tough job and that using "necessary force" is the cost of doing business, and that untrained civilians who don't know any better are not the ones who get to decide what is proper.
Speaking of the usual cry of "more training", I have to laugh.. its the more training whiners that forced me to sit for 5 hours on my day off and listen to gay couples tell me how they live, under the guise of "sensitivity training".. I wanted to vomit until I got my double time laden paycheck... paid for by YOU tax payers.
Short of a Jedi mind trick, there is no easy way to deal with people who are "COC", the only training we ever got that really worked was pain compliance.
And I'll tell you from personal experience, I was out there every day dealing with angry state boy / parolee / gangster scum who hated white cops... I had my nose broken, fingers fractured and a busted foot dealing with dusters, once the tazer arrived I decided I was done getting hurt scrapping with these fools, I'd drop em dead in their tracks at 10-15 feet at the 1st sign of trouble, no apologies.. 100% dept sanctioned, legal and safer for all involved.
