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« Reply #45 on: February 12, 2007, 07:15:34 PM »
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There are a token few here that are just plain offended by anything. But questioning my character without actually being there is tough. So to have to go into more detail is a moot point, but...

I think he was more offended by the choice of music. As are some of you.


I stated this earlier and it is certainly a factor.   The internet is full of bravado these days.

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« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2007, 07:32:57 PM »
Can't wait till I'm older and hear Snoop Dogg on the oldies station.  I can hear it now " That was 'My Humps'  by Black Eyed Peas.  Now going in to the Waback machine it's Eric Clapton with 'Cocaine.'" :t

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« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2007, 08:22:26 PM »
they day they play snoopy doggy on the same station as clapton is the day I firebomb the studio
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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2007, 08:29:58 PM »
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they day they play snoopy doggy on the same station as clapton is the day I firebomb the studio


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« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2007, 09:16:04 PM »
More quotes from the future, " I'm sure those aeroplanes were a quaint novelty when they were made, but they just waste so much space and precious metal.  Aluminum is quite a rarity and we must be thinking of the future now.  Besides, we already have everything in the holo-simulator, why keep the physical duplicate?"  :t :t :t

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« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2007, 10:10:35 PM »
I don't force my music on other people, I think it's rude.  If I'm driving the vette and have it bumping, I even turn it down at red lights. Playing your music so that others must listen to it is selfish and rude.

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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2007, 10:32:52 PM »
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Respect comes to those that earn it. He didn't. IMO


Neither did you.  Worse, you're trying to justify your own poor behavior and total lack of social decency by pointing fingers at other people and trying to say that anyone who thinks you're rude is some sort of token group of intolerant bigots.

You've earned something here alright, but it sure as hell isn't respect.  You've proven that you have no sense of consideration for others and will make up excuses to justify your own poor behavior.  That says a lot about you, demanding respect when by your actions (forcing others to listen to your music) you have made it very clear that you respect nobody.

It doesn't matter what kind of music it is.  I know for a fact that no matter what kind of music I am listening to, some people will be irritated by it if I am playing it too loudly.  So I turn down the volume or turn it off so others don't have to listen to whatever it is I'm listening to.  This is basic common courtesy and is a basic social skill that apparently nobody ever taught you.

If you look around, you see that respectable people do not act as you did.  They show more consideration for others from the beginning and regardless of how they're approached, when they're informed that they are negatively impacting others they correct their deviant behavior.  You went the opposite way and are now standing up for your behavior.  Way to go superstar.
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« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2007, 11:07:56 PM »
"man don't last long gut shot in this country"

yup.

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« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2007, 11:40:18 PM »
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Neither did you.  Worse, you're trying to justify your own poor behavior and total lack of social decency by pointing fingers at other people and trying to say that anyone who thinks you're rude is some sort of token group of intolerant bigots.

You've earned something here alright, but it sure as hell isn't respect.  You've proven that you have no sense of consideration for others and will make up excuses to justify your own poor behavior.  That says a lot about you, demanding respect when by your actions (forcing others to listen to your music) you have made it very clear that you respect nobody.

It doesn't matter what kind of music it is.  I know for a fact that no matter what kind of music I am listening to, some people will be irritated by it if I am playing it too loudly.  So I turn down the volume or turn it off so others don't have to listen to whatever it is I'm listening to.  This is basic common courtesy and is a basic social skill that apparently nobody ever taught you.

If you look around, you see that respectable people do not act as you did.  They show more consideration for others from the beginning and regardless of how they're approached, when they're informed that they are negatively impacting others they correct their deviant behavior.  You went the opposite way and are now standing up for your behavior.  Way to go superstar.
I have to disagree to the point that he wasn't playing it "loudly" and the way the man reacted to him was just plain rude.

someone talks like that to me in public it doesn't matter what the circumstances I will ignore them.

I have had people come up to me out of doors while at a park or other place and tell me I must put that cigarette out, as it offends them. this has been people who have come over from 20 yards + away, and totally rude say "put that disgusting thing out" usually a woman in here 40's to 50's

I simplly say "no" and go on with my business.

I actually had one woman say "I TOLD YOU, PUT THAT OUT" yelling at me. this was at the state fair, in the middle of the parking lot. I said "so?" and she got furious, and huffed away. when I got back to my car at the end of the night there was a key mark along the drivers door. I don't know if it was her or not, but kind of a coincidence huh?

people who attempt to "force" their will on others in public places are wrong, no matter what the situation.

there is a thing called manners, and I think that is what the original point was by Black Sheep. he is by no means a child, if he is telling the truth about his age, he is 35. I myself am 33 (34 in 2 weeks) and know what good manners are in public places.

the smoking example I cited above is just an example of how some people have become in this world.

to make a giant generalization, I have noticed this mostly form "middle aged" baby boomers mostly in the 45-65 range. almost all of them I have encountered are hard core liberals. The kind of people I am talking about are the ones that make rude comments to a waitress if the butter given to them at Denny's is not the right temperature. These people care nothing about the rights or thoughts of another person, as everyone should do and live exactly as they say and think, regardless of the situation. they have no concept of politeness, and seem to never heard the phrase "you catch more flies with honey".

If I am doing something "offensive" to someone, and they politely ask me to not do it, I have no problem listening to them, and accommodating them how and if I can.
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« Reply #54 on: February 13, 2007, 12:36:45 AM »
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people who attempt to "force" their will on others in public places are wrong, no matter what the situation.


Like forcing others to listen to your music huh?  Oh ya, that's what Black Sheep did and you didn't think it was rude... now there's a contradiction.


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I have to disagree to the point that he wasn't playing it "loudly"


No, he said it wasn't.. "bleeding ears"  loud.

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« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2007, 03:14:57 AM »
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Neither did you.  Worse, you're trying to justify your own poor behavior and total lack of social decency by pointing fingers at other people and trying to say that anyone who thinks you're rude is some sort of token group of intolerant bigots.

You've earned something here alright, but it sure as hell isn't respect.  You've proven that you have no sense of consideration for others and will make up excuses to justify your own poor behavior.  That says a lot about you, demanding respect when by your actions (forcing others to listen to your music) you have made it very clear that you respect nobody.

It doesn't matter what kind of music it is.  I know for a fact that no matter what kind of music I am listening to, some people will be irritated by it if I am playing it too loudly.  So I turn down the volume or turn it off so others don't have to listen to whatever it is I'm listening to.  This is basic common courtesy and is a basic social skill that apparently nobody ever taught you.

If you look around, you see that respectable people do not act as you did.  They show more consideration for others from the beginning and regardless of how they're approached, when they're informed that they are negatively impacting others they correct their deviant behavior.  You went the opposite way and are now standing up for your behavior.  Way to go superstar.


Again, this shows how some have missed the point. This apparently struck a nerve with you however; and to the point that you've actually taken it personally, AND inserted what you think MY traits are into the equation. They are irrelevant to this situation. My stance was neither forward nor opposing as you suggest. It was neutral.

Thanks though. Your dialogue serves as a perfect example of this guys behavior to me. And also you lack of understanding what you read. Dolt.

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« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2007, 03:27:16 AM »
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I have to disagree to the point that he wasn't playing it "loudly" and the way the man reacted to him was just plain rude.

someone talks like that to me in public it doesn't matter what the circumstances I will ignore them.

If I am doing something "offensive" to someone, and they politely ask me to not do it, I have no problem listening to them, and accommodating them how and if I can.


Thats pretty much it Megadeth Dave! Yet I can tell that my tolerance for rude people wears thinner every day. My God, I am getting old!

Contrary to some, I do go out of my way on a daily basis to help others. But regardless of opinion here, at least it's a healthy conversation from both sides for a change :)

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« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2007, 06:57:17 AM »
Black Sheep,

How have we missed the point?  Just because we are not all rallying behind you and your point of view does not mean that we missed the point and have not viewed the situation for what it really was.  You described the scenario and quoted what each of you said.  I also know that what some people consider “not loud” can be nearly painful to others.  I’d also say that you were the first to be rude.  He had a right to be ticked at you.  Just like if someone wearing a giant hat sits down in front of you in the movie theater; you shouldn’t even have to ask them to take it off.  This old guy may have been the first to ask you to turn your radio down in awhile but I’d bet that many others have not said a thing.  Many people know that anyone who can be so rude as to play their music loudly are also somewhat likely to turn violent when asked to do something as basic as turn down their music.  Others may have wanted to say something but decided to play it safe.  They also probably figured that anyone who is so cocky and rude to play their music loudly in public would also remain rude and cocky when asked to turn it down.  I commend the old guy for even speaking up for his basic rights.

Tell me, if he were a younger and bigger and scarier looking, would you have turned it down or would you have allowed things to escalate into a fight?  What if he was the same age and size?

Last week I took my wife and three little kids sledding.  When we were getting out of the car there were four high school boys in the parking lot who were exuberant about their sledding experiences and were swearing in the process.  I thought about asking them to not swear in the presence of small children.  But I also figured that if they were rude enough and disrespectful enough to swear in the presence of three little girls they might also be the kind who would enjoy beating up a dad in front of his three little girls.  We were the only ones there; I knew if things turned violent I wouldn’t stand a chance.  Even though I had every right to expect them not to swear in front of my children, I didn’t say a thing.  I’m not the kind to pick fights.  Perhaps if a few other dads were there I would have said something though.

I don’t see your situation as being much different.  

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« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2007, 07:18:59 AM »
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Respectfully disagree.  TSOR is a rockin' tune.  

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« Reply #59 on: February 13, 2007, 07:42:13 AM »
Old Man: Kinda loud isn't it?

Me:  What?  (hehe)


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This indicates to the casual reader that you considered the entire situation to be funny......as in "There's nothing you can do about it old dude!"

Stating that "I was being a bit of a smart alec"  is the most honest statement you made in this entire discussion.


By the way, the music may have been louder than you think.  Have you had your hearing checked lately?  Lots of decibels in a confined space such as a car will cause significant hearing loss by the time you're thirty.