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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2007, 10:43:49 AM »
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I think people with ccw permits should be able to go anywhere from a police station, court room or even a school,   As long as they can get approved for a ccw there should not be any restrictions.


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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2007, 11:24:33 AM »
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All "Liberals are girly men" jokes aside, the Republican party has always been afraid of fighting dirty.  As the liberals lie, cheat and slander their way into positions, the republicans try to keep their hands clean of it.


lol you have to be joking right. You really must be living in fantasy land if you belive that crap.  :rofl
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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2007, 11:27:05 AM »
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I think people with ccw permits should be able to go anywhere from a police station, court room or even a school,   As long as they can get approved for a ccw there should not be any restrictions.


Yea because people with CCW's never shoot anyone or commit crimes.
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2007, 11:35:05 AM »
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Yea because people with CCW's never shoot anyone or commit crimes.


Then institute stronger background checks with evaluations of people to get ccws.


If the goverment thinks you are Well enough to walk around town with a gun then they should not worry when the commoners walk into federal other privileged people's buildings  With guns

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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2007, 11:39:24 AM »
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Yea because people with CCW's never shoot anyone or commit crimes.



Considering that you have to be approved by the local sheriff's office, I consider it much less likely that a violent criminal is likely to apply for a CCW.  More likely, the criminal will just stick the gun in their jacket and not worry about the CCW.

But hell, the very fact that the criminal is out on the streets is because liberals like you are so concerned with making sure the criminal's rights aren't violated that you have missed the basic point that criminals need to serve time to keep them from hurting law abiding citizens.
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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2007, 11:53:15 AM »
Wow, a gun thread and as of yet no sign of Midnight Target?

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2007, 11:54:44 AM »
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Considering that you have to be approved by the local sheriff's office, I consider it much less likely that a violent criminal is likely to apply for a CCW.  More likely, the criminal will just stick the gun in their jacket and not worry about the CCW.

But hell, the very fact that the criminal is out on the streets is because liberals like you are so concerned with making sure the criminal's rights aren't violated that you have missed the basic point that criminals need to serve time to keep them from hurting law abiding citizens.


Not just the Sheriff's office, either (at least not in Colorado).  Here in Colorado, your CCW request is also vetted through the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (state equivalent of the FBI).  And I agree; there should be no restrictions on where you can carry if you've got a valid CCW permit.
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2007, 12:13:33 PM »
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Considering that you have to be approved by the local sheriff's office, I consider it much less likely that a violent criminal is likely to apply for a CCW.  More likely, the criminal will just stick the gun in their jacket and not worry about the CCW.


No one is ever a violent criminal, until they commit a violent crime. Take for instance the BTK killer just for example, I don't think he used guns, but he was a everyday common joe. Of course that's the extreeme case, but yea get the idea I hope.

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sorry I'm tired of replying to crying about liberals..
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2007, 12:16:14 PM »
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Then institute stronger background checks with evaluations of people to get ccws.
 


see the pro gun guys (aka NRA) are totally against that. They say that's too much restrictions and it's anti 2nd amendment. Which in short means the gun companies would lose money on sales.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2007, 12:38:24 PM »
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see the pro gun guys (aka NRA) are totally against that. They say that's too much restrictions and it's anti 2nd amendment. Which in short means the gun companies would lose money on sales.


Not really.  If you read the second ammendment, it mentions no restrictions or qualifiers on the right of people to bear arms.  Now, this doesn't mean that the government can set them, but that specifically they are not allowed to set them.
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2007, 01:08:42 PM »
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Yea because people with CCW's never shoot anyone or commit crimes.


i think that's true, at least in florida, unless you want to include CCW's shooting criminals.

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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2007, 01:09:20 PM »
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see the pro gun guys (aka NRA) are totally against that. They say that's too much restrictions and it's anti 2nd amendment. Which in short means the gun companies would lose money on sales.


Thats the NRA's issue not mine.   I believe they should screen ccw people to make sure they are not crazy or have been convicted of violent crimes as well as take a training class. other then that  Any nonviolent felon  non crazy [person should be allowed guns as well.

But that is only my thoughts

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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2007, 01:21:53 PM »
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Thats the NRA's issue not mine.   I believe they should screen ccw people to make sure they are not crazy or have been convicted of violent crimes as well as take a training class. other then that  Any nonviolent felon  non crazy [person should be allowed guns as well.

But that is only my thoughts


Well I agree with it, but the fact is, the gun lobby which is basically the NRA and Gun companies. Has "shot" down those very kind of standards and background checks and so on.

They claim it violates the 2nd amendment.
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2007, 01:32:26 PM »
First thought:  I AM the NRA!  I am a member and I seriously consider the NRA politician rating system when I cast my vote.  There are very few things I would risk my life for, my right to keep and bear arms is one of those things.

When I applied for my state "License to carry Concealed Pistol" I underwent a FBI background check including fingerprint regime.  That should be good enough for those people that hate guns....right?

Last time I heard anything about it, three state LCCP holders have ever been charged with a firearms crime and only one of those was an actual shooting.
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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2007, 01:33:01 PM »
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Yea because people with CCW's never shoot anyone or commit crimes.


And jusy how many times have you heard of a legal CCW holder going on a killing spree? How many legal CCW holders are out there dealing drugs, jacking cars, robbing stores, and generally violating everyone elses rights?

I'd be willing to bet a months pay you can't find 10 cases of that happening in the entire United States during the last year. You want to know why?? CCW holders don't break the law.
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