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« Reply #210 on: February 16, 2008, 07:28:36 PM »
ants do it.

so do koala bears.  huge vicious armies of koala bears...in armor.
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« Reply #211 on: February 16, 2008, 07:35:53 PM »
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You don't need a majority, just one bullet in the right place at the right time.  The number of CCWs isn't proportional to the size of the crowd but to the number of gunmen.


Just check the 3 links I posted earlier for examples of people with access to weapons stopping a killing spree. Granted in none of the examples were the killing sprees prevented, but the were halted before they became worse.

How many more times would these types of incidents be halted if folks had access to weapons? We'll never know unless we give that access.
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« Reply #212 on: February 16, 2008, 07:40:10 PM »
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I've said that the thought that even a few armed students probably isn't going to stop someone who's intent on killing other students. In his mind he's already come to the conclusion that he's gonna die, thats why they almost always kill themselves at the end.


This is an incorrect assumption as well. Many perpetrators of school shootings are actually serving long prison terms or life sentences. Go read up on all of the school shootings in America. I have, but I'll warn you, it's quite depressing.
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« Reply #213 on: February 16, 2008, 08:03:59 PM »
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insects on the other hand. now those guys are mean. if they had half our size and strengh we would never have got past throwing rock before we were wiped out.


ants?


good example with wolves though. give you that. wolves not invented nukes for their fights though, they evolved weapons on their bodies.
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« Reply #214 on: February 16, 2008, 08:06:48 PM »
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Bat you're making anthropomorphisms everywhere..  Animals aren't "better" than humans.



its ok to kill other spieces for defence or food.   ... even those dogs are more humane than our slaughter houses and animals on death row.

great picuture, but you show me dogs eating dogs .
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« Reply #215 on: February 16, 2008, 08:10:02 PM »
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This is an incorrect assumption as well. Many perpetrators of school shootings are actually serving long prison terms or life sentences. Go read up on all of the school shootings in America. I have, but I'll warn you, it's quite depressing.
Yeah but were any of those people college students who went into a college and started killing people, because having armed students would only happen at that level, and I'm not stating a fact here, but all the college spree killings that I've heard of are dead, but like I said I'm not saying all because I'm sure theres some shootings that I've never heard of.
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« Reply #216 on: February 16, 2008, 09:04:57 PM »
What's the difference Bat, between hyenas eating bulls and dogs eating dogs?  Suppose I did show you such a picture.. Then what?  What's your point?  
Killing your own species is more blasphemous than other species because?
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wolves not invented nukes for their fights though, they evolved weapons on their bodies.
And?  The intent is the same. They'll eat the weak and young of their prey with zero humaneness, will strike on the strong in the most treacherous and unfair ways.... That they're too stupid or physicaly ill-equipped to make the tools we have or realize that killing rivals is a very advantageous means to the same ends they're intent on (food, defense), or that they're geneticaly predisposed to work in packs of their own species is beside the point.
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« Reply #217 on: February 16, 2008, 09:52:09 PM »
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Yeah but were any of those people college students who went into a college and started killing people, because having armed students would only happen at that level, and I'm not stating a fact here, but all the college spree killings that I've heard of are dead, but like I said I'm not saying all because I'm sure theres some shootings that I've never heard of.


Go look it up. :)  There were lots I'd never heard of.
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« Reply #218 on: February 16, 2008, 10:10:52 PM »
One thing I will say, after this shooting I've been seeing things on the news here about people being outrage and wanting stronger gun control laws, and thats just not an answer, how are stronger gun control laws gonna stop things like this, how do you know who's a nut job capable of things like this, the fact is you don't, and making stronger gun control laws isn't gonna stop things like this from happening.  This guy at NIU got all his guns legally and even had a FOID card, what kinda gun control law can tell who's gonna go off the range and go on a shooting spree.
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« Reply #219 on: February 16, 2008, 10:13:15 PM »
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Go look it up. :)  There were lots I'd never heard of.
Where is it that you've look this stuff up, if theres a link to a site you could post for me I'd appreciate it.
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« Reply #220 on: February 17, 2008, 12:12:56 AM »
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Where is it that you've look this stuff up, if theres a link to a site you could post for me I'd appreciate it.


I just did a quick google search for *mass school shootings*. Wiki has a nice article that lists all (?) US school shootings. A few are listed but don't have articles written about them yet. Most of them are pretty well documented as well.

Here is the main Wiki article. This article has links to articles for a majority of the school shootings in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

I found the research to be very sad and depressing, hence why I don't want to do it again.
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« Reply #221 on: February 17, 2008, 12:17:56 AM »
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I just did a quick google search for *mass school shootings*. Wiki has a nice article that lists all (?) US school shootings. A few are listed but don't have articles written about them yet. Most of them are pretty well documented as well.

Here is the main Wiki article. This article has links to articles for a majority of the school shootings in America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

I found the research to be very sad and depressing, hence why I don't want to do it again.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
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« Reply #222 on: February 17, 2008, 05:45:46 AM »
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It is pure fantasy to think ........


You forget that it was an American that invented DisneyLand.

We love fantasies!

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« Reply #223 on: February 17, 2008, 06:26:24 AM »
I will always say "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"


But, why do hell do i hear about school shootings so often in USA.So many people in other developed countries have guns, but they don't go killing students and kids so often.
What a fluffied up country i say whenever i see school shootings on news.
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« Reply #224 on: February 17, 2008, 07:41:53 AM »
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I will always say "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"


But, why do hell do i hear about school shootings so often in USA.So many people in other developed countries have guns, but they don't go killing students and kids so often.
What a fluffied up country i say whenever i see school shootings on news.
Yeah why can't we just be more like Croatia and just have mass genocide rather then have a few school shooting a year.
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