Unofficial Trainers - Read This Please

[Zazen13]

I find this post interesting.  I have been on Aces High for about a year, but I am by far one of the older players in age.  When I started playing AH I read all the website material (many times) and I went to the TA and practiced what I read.  I then found out about the forums and read them on a daily basis.

I see a little two face action going on, because I hear about all this honor, but I have been HO-ed  and Spawn Camped by the biggest names in the game.  I don't mean the top guns by score, I mean the ones who are really the better sticks.  So here on the forums I hear all about this honor code, but tomorrow one of these big named guys will see my lowly Spit 9 and them in their 51 or 38 and the HO will be on.  Of course they will call it a deflection shot, but if I was to do it I would be blasted on 200 or PMed for HOing.

I don't complain on 200, and I don't whine.  I just up another plane and go back for more.  I find the game fun and I try to keep that perspective.

There is no doubt that the game has changed over the years.  That is life in general.  If I had my way we will still be living in the 1960's, but that's not going to happen, so I try to go with the flow as I enter my Golden Years.

Just some thoughts on the subject, not wishing to offend anyone.

Fred

Interesting perspective Fred, thank you for your insights. What you are witnessing is really just human nature. The self-myth a person has in their own mind is always, without exception, different from how they appear to others and behave. When the gap between a person's self-perception and how they actually behave reaches a certain degree if divergence. We call that self-delusion in Psychology. At the other end, there's people who are actually rather self-aware so they do not diverge much from how others see them or how they behave. We call this actualization in Psychology. I say this because all human beings are somewhere between these extremes on the spectrum of self-awareness.

The Game, the Forums, the articles and most importantly your own personal objective experiences combine to form what you know of the game and the community. From that perspective  you discover people you've met on the forums act in a contrary way in-game. It is just a manifestation of divergence. Now if that same person came on the forums and spoke of the issue you experienced with their divergent behavior  you'd probably wonder if you were talking to the same person. People communicate idealistic thoughts with a different part of their brain in the Freudian sense than they would use to pilot a combat aircraft. Depending on how diverent or self-delusional he is. The part of the brain with all the idealism and morality was taking a nap when he HO'd you.

[The Fugitive]

I find this post interesting.  I have been on Aces High for about a year, but I am by far one of the older players in age.  When I started playing AH I read all the website material (many times) and I went to the TA and practiced what I read.  I then found out about the forums and read them on a daily basis.

I see a little two face action going on, because I hear about all this honor, but I have been HO-ed  and Spawn Camped by the biggest names in the game.  I don't mean the top guns by score, I mean the ones who are really the better sticks.  So here on the forums I hear all about this honor code, but tomorrow one of these big named guys will see my lowly Spit 9 and them in their 51 or 38 and the HO will be on.  Of course they will call it a deflection shot, but if I was to do it I would be blasted on 200 or PMed for HOing.

I don't complain on 200, and I don't whine.  I just up another plane and go back for more.  I find the game fun and I try to keep that perspective.

There is no doubt that the game has changed over the years.  That is life in general.  If I had my way we will still be living in the 1960's, but that's not going to happen, so I try to go with the flow as I enter my Golden Years.

Just some thoughts on the subject, not wishing to offend anyone.

Fred

First lets clarify "old timer" here. Old timer in this thread is someone whos been playing flight sim type games for over 5 years. In the old days "K" was a pimp faced kid ! 

Though I think the number of good sticks who do HO, or spawn camp is low, I think its just the evolution of the game that has forced them into it. I very rarely fire in the first pass, unless its a nik la or spit and they turn toward me deliberately looking for the HO.  But thats the way I fly. At times its very frustrating, but I still look fight that fight.

I'm not posting this stuff "whining" about how it was better in the old days, I'm posting that it was better as an example to hopefully spread this idea back into the community. Those that have never seen this would be surprized at how much more fun they could be having.

[SlapShot]

The part of the brain with all the idealism and morality was taking a nap when he HO'd you.

Or it was a true high deflection shot that any "vet" will take, once the fight is "on" if the situation warrants it. In the LW, unless you are fighting a guy in a very sparsely populated area, the more time it takes you to eliminate a threat, only makes you and easier target as time passes.

[bmwgs]

Zazen13, I like your last sentence so much, I decided to make it my SIG line.  With two modifications of course.   

Fred

[Zazen13]

Zazen13, I like your last sentence so much, I decided to make it my SIG line.  With two modifications of course.   

Fred

Haha! Happy to be of service. 

[Adonai]

Now - The Bad Examples of  People Offering their services and who are fivorously exaggerating about their capabilities to help Teach:
Bad Example #1
^ claims 11 years online flight sim experience, claims can teach intermediate & Advanced, yet in reality is looked at as average , middle of the ladder
the original "Mighty01"

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And how do you know my flying experience? Can you please back up this claim as I can.
First squad: 1st G.U.N.S "Richthofens (www.1stguns.de) flying Janes Fighters Anthology 1997 - 2001
Switched to Falcon 4.0 during 99-2004, took year off due to military service been flying aces high since 2005
So yes 10 years Actively flying online sims with a squadron in multiplayer/online mode.

Please use better judgement rather then make "claims" otherwise, You could of simply asked where my proof was.

[Bosco123]

I tried to prove a point on the fact that I did win KOTH, woo! woo! who gives a dam. I was just trying to prove more than what you guys think of me, degrading my flying ability, thinking that I'm some squeeker noob that has no skill. You all think that I'm a liar, and couldn't teach Beginner skill. You all think that I'm stuck up on KOTH, when I only Mentioned it as one of my few things that I have to say. You people can't see past that, and I'm tired of it. For all you know, I could be one of the best sticks in the game, but I know that I'm not.
I know I can't fight people like Levi or Dogg, just because they are the "Expert" level. They can teach things WAY past what I can do, but I know that I know some things that can help anybody, weather their "Beginners" or they are "Advanced/ Experts" ( even though they know just about everything.)
YOU guys blew this WAY out of proportion. Its not my fault that you guys can't see past KOTH. Again I only MENTIONED KOTH as one of my perceived skill that I have attained of this fun year. we have a whole bunch of people that can walk the walk. Yes, we do have a few people that can walk and talk.

[2bighorn]

toot, toot!!!

Yeah, the whole world is out to get you. 

[goober69]

First lets clarify "old timer" here. Old timer in this thread is someone whos been playing flight sim type games for over 5 years. In the old days "K" was a pimp faced kid ! 

Though I think the number of good sticks who do HO, or spawn camp is low, I think its just the evolution of the game that has forced them into it. I very rarely fire in the first pass, unless its a nik la or spit and they turn toward me deliberately looking for the HO.  But thats the way I fly. At times its very frustrating, but I still look fight that fight.

I'm not posting this stuff "whining" about how it was better in the old days, I'm posting that it was better as an example to hopefully spread this idea back into the community. Those that have never seen this would be surprized at how much more fun they could be having.

speaking of hoes  i will sometimes be looking for a deflection front end shot and the guy comes around faster than i thought he wouldm, sometimes i avoid but then sometimes ill also take the shot anyway.
i like ending fights fast so yes i will take any shot i can get especialy a front 1/4 shot sometimes it turns into a ho before i realize it. but i do not fly around at top speed hoing anthing that gets in front of me most of the planes i fly cant stand up to a decent ho shot.

[Bosco123]

Yeah, the whole world is out to get you. 

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. but its terrible to see some of these "good hornorable sticks" make nast comments like this.

[morfiend]

Yeah, the whole world is out to get you. 

 Gee... I thought they were out to get me!!! whew.... dodged another 1.

[Dichotomy]

 Gee... I thought they were out to get me!!! whew.... dodged another 1.

nope I'm still out to get you

[Steve]

I could be one of the best sticks in the game, but I know that I'm not.

I don't know you bosco and I haven't run into you but once this tour, according to the kill stats.  The stats say you were in a k4, me in my pony. I don't remember the encounter to be honest.

Anyway, you claimed to be able to teach advanced and that caused me to raise an eyebrow, so to speak. I've looked at your stat sheet and while score doesn't mean everything, it does mean some things.   Many of the best furballers aren't ranked particularly high but you can take snippets of their stats to see their success. Let's take Levi for instance: you'll never see him with a huge K/D really, but he'll have a pretty good hit % and a really good K/T. His K/S will be at least 2.0 or better.

Then I take a look at your numbers from this tour and they are much different. your K/D of 1.33 is ... OK but not what many would consider advanced.
Your K/S is .86  again not what many would consider advanced.  Your K/T of 8.21 really isn't bad but not spectacular. Your hit% of 5.35 is pretty low.

I really don't mean to offend you but taken as a whole, these numbers don't paint a picture of an advanced pilot.  I'm not saying you aren't one, I am saying it seems unlikely. I hope you can see why people might be skeptical.

[evenhaim]

I don't know you bosco and I haven't run into you but once this tour, according to the kill stats.  The stats say you were in a k4, me in my pony. I don't remember the encounter to be honest.

Anyway, you claimed to be able to teach advanced and that caused me to raise an eyebrow, so to speak. I've looked at your stat sheet and while score doesn't mean everything, it does mean some things.   Many of the best furballers aren't ranked particularly high but you can take snippets of their stats to see their success. Let's take Levi for instance: you'll never see him with a huge K/D really, but he'll have a pretty good hit % and a really good K/T. His K/S will be at least 2.0 or better.

Then I take a look at your numbers from this tour and they are much different. your K/D of 1.33 is ... OK but not what many would consider advanced.
Your K/S is .86  again not what many would consider advanced.  Your K/T of 8.21 really isn't bad but not spectacular. Your hit% of 5.35 is pretty low.

I really don't mean to offend you but taken as a whole, these numbers don't paint a picture of an advanced pilot.  I'm not saying you aren't one, I am saying it seems unlikely. I hope you can see why people might be skeptical.

I feel your efforts are in vain.

[hammer]

I'll just say this - those that need help most frequently usually don't even know this board exists. If you really want to help, go to the TA and find the guy who takes off with the sweeping left turn and tell him about pulling the stick back and right rudder. Then, show him where auto-takeoff is.

Tell him how to change his radio from Help to Country. Make sure he knows how to pick a different plane and explain a little bit about load-out, fuel burn rates, etc. Make sure he knows where the BBS is, the trainer's site, the Wiki. Explain that the trainers are volunteers and there isn't always one in the TA but that there is usually someone that can help with at least the basics.

Most importantly, make sure he knows that this game is a heck of a lot of fun but it takes some time to learn. Spending just a few minutes doing these simple things can make the difference between a new member of the community and someone who takes a look around and then leaves.

Regards,

Hammer