agreed totally except that the rifled .45 is a good weapon at range. (good) not great. the B.A.R. (hence the name) was exactly like this... still wouldnt use it against a plane though unless it was flying right at me and i needed to.
the Grease Gun was an SMG... this means it is unrifled and therefore only effective within 100-500 feet give or take... let alone 500 YARDS out 
yup i was wrong in the caliber. noted by someone else above... and if you think I'M an idiot than you're an idiot yourself my friend... but it only had an effective range out to 1,500 yards. For a ranged weapon thats only good in my mind. I always had in the back of my mind that it was a .45 round. always forgot that the .45 was a pistol round only and never included rifled rounds. And what do you mean idk what MY OWN GAME NAME stands for? Browning Automatic Rifle obviously unlike what everyone in game THINKS my name is as just a bar..... and i still wouldnt use a BAR against a plane at this range so whats ur point? u trying to put me down or something? grow up and stop flaming and trolling in the BBS
No offense 321BAR but...
sshhhhh...just those 3 posts show you know less about weapons than I know about aeronautical engineering...and I know enough about aeronautical engineering to ask questions, not try and state any facts.
Just so you have the correct information...all 20th century small arms used by military forces had rifled barrels...that includes the sub machine guns but does not include the basic shotgun...the .45ACP started out as a pistol round but as illustrated by the devastating capabilities of the Thompson Sub Machine gun, it could reach out and destroy things at longer ranges than a pistol.
The BAR caliber 30.06 had a combat effective range of approximately 400 yards, not 1500...even though it could hit at long range, accuracy suffered...considering they used the .30 Browning machine gun in and against aircraft, what makes you think they would'nt use the more powerful BAR when necessary?
And a 45, fired from a pistol or SMG is really only accurate to about 50 yards (at best) effectively... The longer barrel of the M3 offers very little if any accuracy beyond standard pistol ranges...
Not quite true...the M3 had an effective combat range of 100 yards...spray and pray mind you but still farther than the 50 yards of a 4 inch barreled pistol...and I've fired a 6 inch barreled .45 pistol accurately at 75 yards in competition.
i got all my facts for the gun off of other websites and 2 or 3 of my small arms books
You need to read your sources again...in WWII the M3 was never ever issued to fighter pilots...if at any point a fighter pilot had one, it was an anectdotal incident, not standard military issue...it started out issued to MPs in rear guard positions then went on to be issued to tank crews on the front lines...then basic front line infantry by the Korean war.
The .45 caliber weapon is a larger diameter, but slower moving round. It was used because it imparts more energy/damage into a human as it enters them. This means it has much less penetration. They were point-blank weapons. More than once, a german soldier has run across a part of a battlefield and been shot at by Tommy guns with no effect. One kraut even found spent .45 rounds in his cuffs and pockets, and had some bruises where they hit.
They are never (repeat, NEVER) goin to damage a plane, a prop, anything on the planes in AH with any number of hits unless you're literally standing on top of one and he's not moving. Even then you only "might" hurt the pilot if you unload a clip. There is a reason the .45 is not used anymore in modern law enforcement.
Krusty is correct in most part. The .45ACP was developed to replace the .38special for combat sidearms because the .38 proved to be very ineffective...the .45ACP travels at roughly 800 feet per second, which is close to the velocity of the .38 special but it carries more energy upon impact...aka knockdown power...and it is capable of traveling through the human body even if it hits bone...the effective range is only about 50 yards when fired from a pistol, even though it is deadly to 200 yards ...when fired from a sub machine gun it's effective to about 150 yards. What Krusty failed to note in his anecdote of the German soldiers is that the ranges those German soldiers were hit with was nearly 300 yards...and the same effect occurred with the German MP40s firing 9mm Parabellum...the .45ACP was phased out in most (not all) law enforcement agencies due to much more than just the effective range of the bullets...9mm ACP was chosen due to increased bullet capacity and higher velocity with increased damage upon impact yet sacrificing knock down power and range...others decided to use the .40S&W because it is in between the 9mm and .45, higher velocity and equal knock down power...the .45ACP is still used by some.
I know, Krusty, keep it simple just so it doesn't go over the heads of the unknowing but...
