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Offline druski85

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2010, 09:04:35 PM »
Here's a word for ya: logomachy

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Heh, pretty close to it.   :lol

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2010, 09:05:10 PM »
Throw me a bone here, what are you guys saying?

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2010, 09:05:55 PM »
Throw me a bone here, what are you guys saying?

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2010, 09:08:51 PM »
Maybe you should agree on the Definition of evolution first.   Are there not five differant kinds of evolution? I personally would like to see the specific definition of evolution that is being discussed.
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2010, 09:09:20 PM »
I believe a scientist looking at non-scientific things is just as dumb as the next guy.

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2010, 09:24:51 PM »
I believe a scientist looking at non-scientific things is just as dumb as the next guy.

The first thing you have to get over (Penguin) is fooling yourself and you are the easiest person to fool (by yourself).

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Hmm, you may have a good point, but how am I fooling myself?  I suppose you are right, by debating him I am lending him credence. 

For the record, we are looking at the change of species over time, if you guys want the defenition of evolution.

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2010, 09:40:48 PM »


Your debate seems to broad to me... Any way your willing to norrow it down a bit?

Organic Evolution  -Origin of life.
Macro Evolution- Changing from one kind into another.
Micro Evolution -Variations within kinds.
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2010, 09:57:09 PM »
So is this debate like the Jimmy vs Timmy cripplefight in SouthPark?

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2010, 10:08:10 PM »
Sorry Penguin, I'm trying to get used to using my new joystick...as mentioned above.  :D

Awaiting response from Gyrene...

There are different species, they all just share the same ancestor.

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If you are talking the ancestor being a single cell organism, that is probable if the single cell organism had the ability to change its own genetic structure to evolve into different life forms...but that is where it stops, an invertebrate cannot evolve into a vertbrate of a higher order nor can that ancestor of a higher order change itself to the point of evolving into an even higher life form in a different order...contrary to the popular beliefs by lay evolutionists, otherwise the human genome could be reverse engineered through genetic manipulation and we could all have gills.



Your debate seems to broad to me... Any way your willing to norrow it down a bit?

Organic Evolution  -Origin of life.
Macro Evolution- Changing from one kind into another.
Micro Evolution -Variations within kinds.
Of all ideas on evolution the easiest to prove (to a point) is Micro evolution...and to that I offer no argument as I have seen it myself. Organic evolution could be argued as part of the theory of Macro evolution...but I agree with science in that it is separate and though arguable, it is generally agreed that at the lowest common denominator, it is provable to a point. Macro evolution is the theory that seems to be the most popular for those who argue against intelligent design...and has yet to be proven based on the scientific method.

I'll leave it to Penguin to decide which area he wants to try and argue.  :D
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2010, 10:12:12 PM »
im too drunk for this crap
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #25 on: April 26, 2010, 11:00:35 PM »
I see people running in circles with their heads pointed toward the ground.
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2010, 12:18:55 AM »
I see people running in circles with their heads pointed toward the ground.

You do?    I'm betting your hallucinating!
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #27 on: April 27, 2010, 02:39:57 AM »
wouldn't that make all creatures idependant derivatives of the original ancestor refined through natural selection. Just because i am similar to the bloke sitting next to me, why does that make us the same species?
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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #28 on: April 27, 2010, 11:55:24 AM »

(quote)wouldn't that make all creatures idependant derivatives of the original ancestor refined through natural selection. Just because i am similar to the bloke sitting next to me, why does that make us the same species?(quote)


Its interesting when  people ask """WHY"""  ""Why"" presopposes  intelligent design.    You need to be asking How.

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Re: Debate: Penguin vs Gyrene
« Reply #29 on: April 27, 2010, 12:29:57 PM »
1 vote for intelligent design.



In my opinion, there are just too many holes in the theory of evolution.   :rolleyes:
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