Early Man

[Saxman]

I can buy meat in the shops much cheaper and with much less effort than hunting. It is also completely irrelevant. It has nothing to do with what I need. It's what I want.

On the other hand, the wolf needs to hunt, because it can't stop by the butcher's shop or the local drive-thru to pick up dinner. Why do your wants matter more than the wolf's needs? The only reason the wolf goes for pets, sheep, cattle, and other domestic animals is because A) humans have put them there and B) because they're a lot easier than running down a deer or elk.

It's human activities that leads to wolves preying on livestock in the first place.

[Slash27]

I am a creationist and I believe that the world is about six thousand years old...      

My question is how primitive was early man?


I have some thoughts and Ideas but would like to see a debate on what you think and why...  

[Bear76]

Why?  It's reached over 25 pages, so obviously people are interested in the topic. 

Should we just prune the boards of all topics that aren't particularly adherent to your personal interests? 

That is not what he meant, he was responding to my post.

[Brooke]

It's not like anyone is going to change their point of view, so what is the point of all this?

It's for folks who like to discuss and debate.  It's fun! 

[Bear76]

It's for folks who like to discuss and debate.  It's fun! 

or master debate 

[Brooke]

or master debate 

  

[GScholz]

On the other hand, the wolf needs to hunt, because it can't stop by the butcher's shop or the local drive-thru to pick up dinner. Why do your wants matter more than the wolf's needs? The only reason the wolf goes for pets, sheep, cattle, and other domestic animals is because A) humans have put them there and B) because they're a lot easier than running down a deer or elk.

It's human activities that leads to wolves preying on livestock in the first place.

I'm not blaming the wolf. It just wants to survive. Why my wants matter more than the wolf's you ask? I'm in a better position to enforce my wants, and I do not want the wolf to survive because it is in conflict with my hobby. The farmers don't want the wolf to survive because it is in conflict with their livelihoods. It's a sheit deal for the wolf, but that's life.

[GScholz]

Some recent developments... On topic for a change.


"New, high-quality genome sequences from Neanderthal and Denisovan remains suggest that these two groups interbred frequently with other ancient human ancestors and anatomically modern humans. The sequences also revealed evidence of interbreeding with another unidentified human ancestor. The work, led by David Reich of Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts, was presented at a meeting of The Royal Society focused on ancient DNA this week (November 18)."

“What it begins to suggest is that we’re looking at a ‘Lord of the Rings’-type world—that there were many hominid populations,”

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38361/title/Ancient-Genomes-Reveal-Secrets/

[Slate]

Some recent developments... On topic for a change.


"New, high-quality genome sequences from Neanderthal and Denisovan remains suggest that these two groups interbred frequently with other ancient Sasquach! and anatomically modern humans. The sequences also revealed evidence of interbreeding with Aliens!. The work, led by Some guy at Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts, was presented at a meeting of The Royal Society focused on ancient DNA this week (November 18)."

“What it begins to suggest is that we’re looking at a ‘Lord of the Rings’-type world—that there were many hominid populations,”

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38361/title/Ancient-Genomes-Reveal-Secrets/

I can make stuff up too  

[Tank-Ace]

I can make stuff up too  

 

[Brooke]

Hmm.  Seems to be some misunderstanding on the difference between presenting results of a test and making stuff up.

[gyrene81]

Some recent developments... On topic for a change.


"New, high-quality genome sequences from Neanderthal and Denisovan remains suggest that these two groups interbred frequently with other ancient human ancestors and anatomically modern humans. The sequences also revealed evidence of interbreeding with another unidentified human ancestor. The work, led by David Reich of Harvard Medical School in Boston, Massachusetts, was presented at a meeting of The Royal Society focused on ancient DNA this week (November 18)."

“What it begins to suggest is that we’re looking at a ‘Lord of the Rings’-type world—that there were many hominid populations,”

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/38361/title/Ancient-Genomes-Reveal-Secrets/

that information was posted a few pages back...i posted it. obviously you're more interested in what's rattling around in that empty space above your neck than other peoples views unless they are the same as yours.

[GScholz]

To my knowledge you did not post a link to that article, and your claim that "current research shows that neanderthals and modern humans did not actually intermingle" is clearly contradictory to that article, which states: "New, high-quality genome sequences from Neanderthal and Denisovan remains suggest that these two groups interbred frequently with other ancient human ancestors and anatomically modern humans."

Obviously you need to pay more attention, even to your own opinions and what you've posted.

[gyrene81]

didn't say i posted a link to that article did i? i said information...

you might want to explore further than that single article...

http://planetsave.com/2013/11/22/denisovan-hominins-interbred-with-an-unknown-early-human-species-new-dna-analysis-shows/

and from here... http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics/ancient-dna-and-neanderthals/interbreeding

to here... http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn24603

to here... http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128323.200-the-vast-asian-realm-of-the-lost-humans.html

[guncrasher]

the funny thing about all this posts is that both sides are based on one thing and one thing only, faith.  there's enough written material to know that there maybe a higher power if you have faith in it.   or that there isnt and we have faith in those who have written about certain bones and perhaps how we have developed from others.

there's no ultimate proof one way or another, there's only faith.  sad thing is that both sides think they have more faith than the other.


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