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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #120 on: May 01, 2016, 02:42:29 PM »
With all this , How does one lose it and get back to be able to walk without the use of Morphine, and aids like I do now?

You need to talk to your doctor, with the comorbidities you have there is no easy answer.

I wish you the best and great success.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #121 on: May 01, 2016, 07:03:51 PM »
If you eliminate all carbs you can force the body to undergo a metabolic change (metabolic acidosis) where fats and muscle are used up by the body at an incredible rate. You can literally eat all meat all day and lose weight! However, the risk and potential damage to the body when performing this kind of diet can be rather high.

Keep in mind that eliminating all carbs from a diet is very hard as even simple marinades on meat can be enough to prevent metabolic acidosis. Please, do not attempt this kind of diet without medical supervision, particularly if you have an underlying condition like diabetes or renal impairment.

Which is exactly why I said it wasn't sustainable.  Its not.  And after giving my sons nutritionist (BS in Microbiology, MS in BioChem, and MD)  a screen shot of this, she quickly emailed back this response, "To only eat meat and salad to attempt to lose weight is a 12 week proposition at best.  The pressure that level of protein digestion puts on your endocrine system borders on forced-failure.  To say this is a safe, healthy, method of weight loss is completely irresponsible and could be life-threatening."   
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #122 on: May 01, 2016, 09:55:07 PM »
Which is exactly why I said it wasn't sustainable.  Its not.  And after giving my sons nutritionist (BS in Microbiology, MS in BioChem, and MD)  a screen shot of this, she quickly emailed back this response, "To only eat meat and salad to attempt to lose weight is a 12 week proposition at best.  The pressure that level of protein digestion puts on your endocrine system borders on forced-failure.  To say this is a safe, healthy, method of weight loss is completely irresponsible and could be life-threatening."

Yes, of course you don't eat 0.000000000% carbs.  You do get some even if you are trying to get none.  Even people who try their best to get zero carbs get some grams of carbs per day.

And I dispute that opinion, since what I am describing is basically the Atkins diet, which lots of people have tried for much longer than 12 weeks, and are fine.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #123 on: May 02, 2016, 11:57:02 AM »
I don't know if this can help you, but NEVER give up!

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #124 on: May 03, 2016, 12:22:28 PM »
Yes, of course you don't eat 0.000000000% carbs.  You do get some even if you are trying to get none.  Even people who try their best to get zero carbs get some grams of carbs per day.

And I dispute that opinion, since what I am describing is basically the Atkins diet, which lots of people have tried for much longer than 12 weeks, and are fine.

Actually the modified Atkins requires some carbs.  Your original post said MEAT AND SALAD.  i didn't include her comments regarding vitamin deficiency etc. 

Also, she noted no one ever stays on the Atkins as a lifestyle.  You can guess why right, lol.  It's not sustainable
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2016, 12:26:56 PM »
Actually the modified Atkins requires some carbs.  Your original post said MEAT AND SALAD.  i didn't include her comments regarding vitamin deficiency etc. 

Also, she noted no one ever stays on the Atkins as a lifestyle.  You can guess why right, lol.  It's not sustainable

"Requires" . . . you make it sound like you have to make a special effort to get some carbs.  I have a friend on the Atkins diet.  He can't get zero carbs.  He tries very, very hard to get under about 1 slice of bread of carbs per day.

People can stay on low-carb diet indefinitely.  You start out with very low carbs while you lose weight.  Then, once you lose your weight, the typical person can up the carbs and maintain that new weight level.  That's what I do.  I had lower carbs while losing weight, then upped my carbs and maintain once the weight was gone, and I maintain my lower weight without any difficulty on my low-carb diet.

This low-carb diet is sustainable for me without a lot of work and no hunger.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #126 on: May 03, 2016, 12:37:19 PM »
Actually the modified Atkins requires some carbs.  Your original post said MEAT AND SALAD.  i didn't include her comments regarding vitamin deficiency etc. 

Also, she noted no one ever stays on the Atkins as a lifestyle.  You can guess why right, lol.  It's not sustainable

Also, let me make it more precise:  do the Atkins plan.  (Which includes what you do once you lose the weight, which is then plenty sustainable.)

If you can't manage to do it, try cutting out sugar of all sorts and reducing carbs as much as you can manage.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #127 on: May 03, 2016, 02:44:25 PM »

The last few are the hardest ones,  if you are losing at all you are doing great.  :aok
1lb a week absolutely acceptable and healthy.

I lost 1 lb.  sad.  I have gone from a size 42 to a 36 in the past year. have lost about 55 lbs.  it's the last 20 that I am stuck on.


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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #128 on: May 05, 2016, 06:10:43 AM »
Week #2:

6.9 lbs down   10.3lbs total

Pretty much just eliminated sugar/breads from the diet. Weird.. it's a lot easier than I thought it would be and I don't get hungry.

Granted, it's only been 2 weeks and when you're carrying a lot of extra weight, the first dozen or so lbs go quickly.

We'll see how it holds.

Had bread for Communion last Sunday.. couldn't believe how noticeable the taste of the sugar was.

I do still get a little carbs by munching on dry roasted peanuts and raw almonds between meals.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #129 on: May 05, 2016, 06:20:48 AM »
I'm up to 37 lbs lost, but I cheat.  I have Crohn's disease and everything comes off incredibly easy, it is just stopping at my ideal weight that is the challenge.

I have tried that one too, Its so easy to loose those extra pounds that arent bones and skin.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #130 on: May 05, 2016, 08:14:04 AM »
I'm up to 37 lbs lost, but I cheat.  I have Crohn's disease and everything comes off incredibly easy, it is just stopping at my ideal weight that is the challenge.


My Crohn's disease did not stop me from going severly overweight in the past ~15 years.  :uhoh
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #131 on: May 05, 2016, 09:09:17 AM »
Well, I've got to try harder.  I didn't lose or gain this week.  And you are doing great APdrone.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #132 on: May 05, 2016, 09:02:31 PM »
My Crohn's disease did not stop me from going severly overweight in the past ~15 years.  :uhoh

To explain that, it is akin to a huge feast (like our Thanksgiving in the United States). The more you eat, the slower gastric motility becomes which equate to less pain and symptoms. That is until the symptoms return and you need to gorge yourself again. The alternative is not eating frequently and experiencing a flood of symptoms as the bowel 'wakes up' with potential ischemic bowel.

After researching at length to ensure validity, I've found that a small dose of nicotine (3-9mg a day) maximizes the mucosal lining of the intestines. Add a small amount of CBD (5-15mg)/5mg THC a day and that reduces the inflammation and keeps future bouts at bay while maintaining normal bowel function.

Contact me privately if you have any questions. I feel your pain and don't mind passing along what I've found works and is backed by reputable research.
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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #133 on: May 05, 2016, 11:39:42 PM »
Week #2:

6.9 lbs down   10.3lbs total

Pretty much just eliminated sugar/breads from the diet. Weird.. it's a lot easier than I thought it would be and I don't get hungry.

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Re: A weight challenge
« Reply #134 on: May 06, 2016, 12:16:06 PM »
1 more lb.  18 to go :).


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