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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2023, 08:56:45 AM »
I don't think any rational person would deny that the climate changes. That's common sense.

The big lie with all of these goofballs is that they are trying to tell us that the warming period we've had is dangerous. It's just the opposite. The warming period we've had has been beneficial.

The morons lap it up. The world's going to end in 5 years!

Meanwhile we have the highest food production in history. More people are alive than ever before in history.

Storms are not worse, floods are not worse, drought is not worse. Nothing is worse.

Let the globe cool a little bit and things will get bad.

The funny thing is that all of the fixes for the global warming are what is going to end up killing everybody.

Ban farming, ban The most efficient means of energy production and replace it with something that actually does a lot more harm to the Earth.

It's so funny that people are so dumb.

The climate is changing so we must kill ourselves so we can save the Earth.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2023, 09:25:39 AM »
Some really nice willful ignorance in this thread. Didn’t realize AH had so many desktop scientists.
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2023, 09:26:42 AM »
Sounds like it's pretty biased towards one position...surely it's not definitely not the sun though.

Gotta go back to the stone ages to save the planet! PROGRESS at it's finest.  :D

Ozone layer holds sun heat in, has nothing to do with particles. :)
I will refer back to aerosol bans that somewhat fixed it.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2023, 09:32:22 AM »
If one has no details to back up denial, its just lazy words. :)
The stone-age was volcanoes, which was a pollution. Its 2023. We replaced volcanoes with industry.

“ his 1902 article attributes to Svante Arrhenius a theory that coal combustion could eventually lead to human extinction. This 1912 article, earlier published in Popular Mechanics, succinctly describes the greenhouse effect, describing how burning coal creates carbon dioxide that causes climate change.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_science#:~:text=This%201902%20article%20attributes%20to,dioxide%20that%20causes%20climate%20change.


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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2023, 09:44:34 AM »
People use car exhaust in a garage to commit suicide. Earths garage is the atmosphere.

Must be the fraction of Native American in me.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2023, 09:54:55 AM »
If one has no details to back up denial, its just lazy words. :)
The stone-age was volcanoes, which was a pollution. Its 2023. We replaced volcanoes with industry.

“ his 1902 article attributes to Svante Arrhenius a theory that coal combustion could eventually lead to human extinction. This 1912 article, earlier published in Popular Mechanics, succinctly describes the greenhouse effect, describing how burning coal creates carbon dioxide that causes climate change.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_science#:~:text=This%201902%20article%20attributes%20to,dioxide%20that%20causes%20climate%20change.
You add industry and vehicle exhaust to volcanoes.

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2023, 10:03:08 AM »
People use car exhaust in a garage to commit suicide. Earths garage is the atmosphere.

Must be the fraction of Native American in me.

The benefits of modern technology far, far outweigh any negative effects.

No one that I know of is pro pollution. But this thread is about Global Warming.

The United Nations website lists the dangers of "climate change". Note - they specifically say climate "change", not warming. So I guess we need to stop changes in the climate.
They lister these dangers of climate change

https://www.un.org/en/climatechange/science/causes-effects-climate-change

Hotter temperatures.
As greenhouse gas concentrations rise, so does the global surface temperature. ...
More severe storms. ...
Increased drought. ...
A warming, rising ocean. ...
Loss of species. ...
Not enough food. ...
More health risks. ...
Poverty and displacement.

All of these things are either irrelevant or are just not even true.


Storms are not worse - this is a fact.

Food production is greater than any time in our history - because of a warming climate. Cooling means less food poduction

loss of species - this is normal. You can look up - more than 99% of all species that have ever lived have gone extinct. It's normal and has not caused any harm to earth or humans.
When most of earth was a tropical zone, MORE life flourished - on land AND in the warmer oceans

The oceans are not rising to any degree that effects any significant amount of the population. People are not being displaced by rising oceans.

More health risks -  more people are alive and thriving than any time in history. People are living LONGER

The proposed solutions to these "problems" are to restrict farming (loss of food), ban oil and gas ( people's livelihoods and health), ban air conditioners, and much more. Tax us more.

They want to restrict and ban the very things that have made us thrive and live longer. They want to kill people off and make people live in MORE misery with their policies - and STILL the climate is going to change.

The climate will get warmer and the climate will get cooler. Just as it always has. Species will go extinct and new ones will come into existence - normal.
When the climate gets cooler is when we are in real trouble - as has happened before








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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #67 on: July 29, 2023, 10:14:33 AM »
Nonsense
You just find it more convenient  to deny science, what you posted is opinion, and inserted opinion.

Reality is rough fir some.

Gases from volcanoes and debris from a asteroid caused dinosaurs to go extinct. Acidic oceans from CD is bleaching coral reefs. Most animals today go extinct by humans taking their habitats and pollution. You cannot eat some seafood due to human polluted waters. An entire Great Lake lost all fish due to pollution. When the lake was cleaned healthy seafood returned.

The list is endless. Deniers stance is limited to bending reality.

Eat too much seafood and you can get build up of mercury, into poisoning.
Fact: a person who constantly drinks plastic bittled water consumes 1 credit card worth of plastic per year.
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #68 on: July 29, 2023, 10:27:30 AM »
Forest fires and volcanoes make the air unbreathable. Yet here we are.

Whichever side you're on in the climate 'debate', the answer is nuclear power.
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #69 on: July 29, 2023, 10:28:41 AM »
Nonsense
You just find it more convenient  to deny science, what you posted is opinion, and inserted opinion.

Reality is rough fir some.

What part of what I wrote is not true?

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2023, 10:50:17 AM »
Ozone layer holds sun heat in, has nothing to do with particles. :)
I will refer back to aerosol bans that somewhat fixed it.

It actually doesn't. The Ozone and atmospher actually block a lot of the suns energy gamma rays back into space, then the rays hit clouds and other compounds in the atmosphere and block back into space. It's why when a cloud covers and the sun dims, it feels slightly cooler, or when you use an umbrella to block the sun on the beach so it's not directly hitting you. That makes the shade under it slightly cooler. Gamma rays actually lose energy eventually. So generally they bounce off things and go up back into the cool atmosphere and cool. Some objects obsorb heat more than others. You notice that the other hemisphere is colder and in winter. Thats because it takes the suns rays further to get to that side of the world further from the sun. It changes the seasons and weather patterns. It's incredible how that works.

 In a green house, the glass reflects heat, but it also goes thru the glass and then doesn't have enough energy to escape. Heat is energy. The sun brings heat energy and light. Particles speed up from heat. Its what creates life. By night time, the suns rays lose energy and it cools off. At night time, infrared heat from the earth warms the area. On a cloudy night, it will actually be hotter because it's trapping the earrhs own heat. Its why deserts are super cold at night. The heat just rises back into space, loses energy and cools. If anything, there may be an increase in C02 due to the earth being closer to the sun in a cycle and creating more energy from plants and animals, thus making it a little hotter. That has been my theory from the start. In tern, a bunch of C02 and water vapor in the atmosphere created from this would actually be the earths balancing mechanism to cool it from being closer to the sun. In anycase, the only thing that could make the entire earth warmer is being closer to the sun in a cycle.
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2023, 11:21:45 AM »
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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2023, 02:35:00 PM »
Nonsense

Don't be so negative Animal. I totally agreed with -gg- right up to this part:

I don't think...

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2023, 04:19:44 AM »
You probably mean ranching ... while attempting to make light.  :old:

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Re: Global Warming: Facts Request FYI
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2023, 05:42:37 AM »
Farm, Ranch... Potatoe Potato

Completely identical. Meh.  :cool: