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« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2002, 08:19:52 PM »
The Japanese really need a late war fighter that has insurance against the Allied whiners in the CT.

The N1K2-J fails to deliver because it has no insurance against gripes about the small numbers used and gripes about how late it entered the war.

There were 3,514 Ki.84s built.  That is the third most produced fighter from Japan, losing only to the A6M with 10,937 produced and the Ki.43 with 5,919 produced.  There were only 406 N1K2-Js produced. Because the Ki.84 was so common from mid 1944 on the Allied fliers can't get rid of it without also talking away their late war fighters.

The Ki.84 entered full squadron service in April, 1944.  That is a month before the P-51D entered squadron service, and three monts before either the F6F-5 or P-38L entered service.  The N1K2-J may have entered squadron service as early as November, 1944, but the first combats that I can find for the N1K2-J happen in January, 1945.  Once again the Ki.84 delivers insurance against the Allied fliers being able to get rid of it without getting rid of their own late war fighters.

We need the Ki.84.
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« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2002, 11:16:31 PM »
I remember being tormented by the Ki-84 back in AW DOS days!  It would make life more difficult for sure but that's 1/2 the fun IMHO- having other challenging a/c to match up against.  I agree that this would be a great plan to add to the AH planeset and quite confident that Pyro has data on this plane.

Mitsu or Karnak, would you guys mind posting more performance data on the Ki-84?  I'd like to see especially the max level speed curves and also the Ha-45-23 or Ha-45-21 power curves as well.  Want to run some numbers to get a gauge as to the performance for fun.

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« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2002, 11:33:56 PM »

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« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2002, 08:44:29 AM »
Pongo!  That's  great pic!  Also the one of the La-7 you had looked great too!  Where are you getting those?

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« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2002, 09:14:36 AM »
what about escorting kate with ki84 in V1.11?!

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« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2002, 10:06:02 AM »
The ki84 is from some japanese site I found and is a rendered piece of digital art.
The la7 was in game art from IL2 forgotten battles

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« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2002, 09:22:17 PM »
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Originally posted by J_A_B
Yes it's a good fighter.  But it's not "uber" by any means, and it'd make a GREAT addition to the AH MA.   It would also work wonders for the CT.


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yes it is, uber that is :)

also it's a "gurleyman" plane (tm NoBaddy)

and if it's added then it's mine!! all mine! get away!

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« Reply #82 on: November 06, 2002, 07:31:13 PM »
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Originally posted by dtango
Mitsu or Karnak, would you guys mind posting more performance data on the Ki-84?  I'd like to see especially the max level speed curves and also the Ha-45-23 or Ha-45-21 power curves as well.  Want to run some numbers to get a gauge as to the performance for fun.

I'm sorry, but I don't have any graphs of the Ki.84's performance.

I think Mitsu might have the TAIC charts.
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« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2002, 07:48:31 PM »
At evey AH CON I have been to I have asked Pyro when we will get the Ki84. He keeps telling me its coming soon. Well I've been to three AH Cons and still no Ki84. Don't hold your breath.

Been missing this plane since I left WB's. If they make it as sweet as it was in WB's I will be in it everytime I go up.



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« Reply #84 on: November 07, 2002, 06:39:41 AM »
I hope we get it in v1.11, and I hope its worth this long wait.




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« Reply #85 on: November 07, 2002, 07:24:07 AM »
Pongo do you by chance have the link, I used to have it on my old hard drive before the melt down, havent been able to get it back:(

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« Reply #86 on: November 08, 2002, 07:05:22 AM »
brady,

You should be able to get the link by right-clicking on the image and selecting "properties" from the popup window.    The URL will be listed there.

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« Reply #87 on: November 08, 2002, 07:09:47 AM »
Yes Puhlease Bring Ol' Frank for 1.11  :D

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« Reply #88 on: November 08, 2002, 07:11:24 AM »
Huh, interesting, dident work,but I can see pongos living room:)

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« Reply #89 on: November 08, 2002, 11:31:23 AM »
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Originally posted by Kwan
Been wanting a KI84 in AH since I left (WB) years ago.

I would probably fly it almost exclusively.


A KI84 Dweeb.................  :)


Wow, another guy registered in '99 with very few posts eh?

Oh wait...he's a squaddie i've been flyin-&-dyin with for ~6 years too!