Author Topic: Whose you most feared pilot? (Read 7946 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #165 on:** January 10, 2003, 10:26:46 AM »

lazer.. u should get that drinking under control... If there is a good pilot under that haze you should let him out.... still... to do what you do with no arms is pretty amazing.

narsus... SO?
lazs

whels · « **Reply #166 on:** January 10, 2003, 10:43:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
Leviathn.. it is all well and good to make fun of Lazer, but I think he has a point. He probably *could* double or triple is K/D (and improve on everything else) if he were to fly a N1K, Spit or La7.

Actually I think for him it'd be the Spit9 or N1K2, since those do everything better than the P38 does. I think if someone has a K/D of X flying the P38, it wouldn't be at all unreasonable for them to have a K/D of 2 or 3X in a N1K or Spit.

Same for the la7, if you are a 109 or 190 pilot with a K/D of X, you could reasonaby expect to double or triple that in the La7, along with improving K/T and such. Why? Because the plane is simply better.

Course, thats just my 2 cents.

actually Urchin,
if u cant get and maintain a 10+ K/D in La7 ur doing something wrong. i flew it as main ride 1 tour a few back. at 1 time had a 35 to 1 K/D, ended with 15 to 1 i think.

La7 id incredibly easy to kill and rtb multiple kills in.

whels

SLO · « **Reply #167 on:** January 10, 2003, 10:50:13 AM »

so you know how to survive in the MA whels.....doesn't give you any skills my friend....just that your afraid to mix it up in furballs.

Steve · « **Reply #168 on:** January 10, 2003, 11:24:32 AM »

Is that the only measure of skill? Mix it up in a furball...get 3 or 4 kills, then get shot down? Seems to me that survival is a skill in itself...assuming one is willing to engage the enemy. SLO, you're seemingly implying that high K/D is not reflective of skill but rather cowardice. One could buzz around in an LA7 and get plenty o' kills and have a great K/D & K/S.. but skill would be required. A no-skill dweeb simply couldn't get the the K/S and K/D up to a decent level. Also, regardless of skill and the plane you fly, you have to make good decisions or all the ACM in the world will mean little. SLO, I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to start an argument but I feel to have a decent K/S or K/D in any plane requires skill. I politely disagree with your last post.

maxtor · « **Reply #169 on:** January 10, 2003, 11:37:12 AM »

I try to fly somewhat realistically most of the time. I take off from a clear base grab alt to the action and work my way down then go land the results at my Takeoff base. Not the best way to make score in Aces High, but it is satisfying for me. I seldom encounter the furball pilots, nor do they encounter me - but I don't lose sleep over that

SLO · « **Reply #170 on:** January 10, 2003, 11:44:36 AM »

I agree with ya steve...it does take skills to survive....but like me...you know it takes more then SA skills to kill you:D

someone can have a better plane better guns.....his SA gave him a better position......his SA skills will NOT get the better of me.....his fighting skills will:)

your SA means nothing if its 2on1 or 3on1.

sorry I shoulda been more precise.

answer this.....when was the last time you survived a 2on1 3on1 4on1.

SA will give you a better chance to survive...it won't give you better fighting skills...

Honch · « **Reply #171 on:** January 10, 2003, 12:48:29 PM »

you gotta be K/Ding me.

So far, I have survived every sortie I have ever flown.

Even the ones that I got killed on.

To me, "surviving" a fight only delays the inevitable re-upping.

My furball motto: "Whoever dies first gets the newest plane"

DoctorYO · « **Reply #172 on:** January 10, 2003, 01:51:00 PM »

You all are suxor compared to me.

DoctorYo

Steve · « **Reply #173 on:** January 10, 2003, 01:55:54 PM »

good point SLO

Honch: the eternal optimist!

Honch · « **Reply #174 on:** January 10, 2003, 02:06:32 PM »

When you suck as bad as I do - its easy to have a sense of humor about getting shot down.

But, maybe someday I'll be mentioned on a thread like this . . someday...

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #175 on:** January 10, 2003, 02:18:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Steve
SLO, I respect your opinion and I'm not trying to start an argument but I feel to have a decent K/S or K/D in any plane requires skill.

I disagree. As is usually the case, a decent K/S or K/D in any plane may be an indicator of skill. Naturally, it might also indicate a score-obsessed cherry picking weenie or someone who goes heavy on the vulching. The real key is knowing how one flies and under what circumstances he or she normally fights.

I'm far more impressed by a K/D ratio of 2 from someone who I know consistently fights from a disadvantage than a K/D ratio of 15 from someone who always engages with alt, numbers, and speed. That the former can manage two kills at all from such a situation impresses me; that the latter only manages fifteen kills for each death given such advantages just doesn't do it for me.

-- Todd/Leviathn

sax · « **Reply #176 on:** January 10, 2003, 02:52:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
I disagree. As is usually the case, a decent K/S or K/D in any plane may be an indicator of skill. Naturally, it might also indicate a score-obsessed cherry picking weenie or someone who goes heavy on the vulching. The real key is knowing how one flies and under what circumstances he or she normally fights.

I'm far more impressed by a K/D ratio of 2 from someone who I know consistently fights from a disadvantage than a K/D ratio of 15 from someone who always engages with alt, numbers, and speed. That the former can manage two kills at all from such a situation impresses me; that the latter only manages fifteen kills for each death given such advantages just doesn't do it for me.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Don't ya just hate it when he's right:)

I am one of those vultch weenies, and enjoy it . At the same time I have been dedicating at least 1/2 of my time to coming in low and staying low till I die to try and improve .

Leviathon is dead on the money, 2 kills in the dirt has more sastisfaction than the other way.

Steve · « **Reply #177 on:** January 10, 2003, 02:54:24 PM »

Todd: as with SLO, I respect your difference of opinion. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see that I am in the minority here. I'm not saying either of you are wrong, just that my view/opinion is different. I could,( and used to regularly, at least in AW) go into a furball in my spitty, regardless of whether I was at the top of the pile or not, and maintain a K/D of 3-4/1. It's tons of fun but became rather boring(for me). It got to be that there were only a couple guys that could hang versus my spit 1v1.. and those were other spitty sticks, no other plane could hang. So I turned to a new challenge: getting some kills and getting home. Now, in your mind(and many others) I may now be a "cherry picking weenie"(although I love fights 1v1)..but I'm not a score potato. Score and K/D may be a byproduct... I'm an "rtb" weenie. Getting home with a kill or 3 is what's fun for me, just like knife fighting is what's fun for you. I understand this doesn't impress or "do it" for you.. but it's how I have fun... I hope you appreciate that.

Steve · « **Reply #178 on:** January 10, 2003, 03:01:10 PM »

Sax.. it's not a matter of who is right.. it's a matter of what each person enjoys. If you enjoy knife fighting on the deck in a cluster of frendlies and enemies... go for it!. I'd rather find a bad guy or 3, kill them and return home.. it's what I enjoy. I don't see how either is "right". Nowhere in the rules does it say that one method is better than the other... both require skills.. if different ones.

2stony · « **Reply #179 on:** January 10, 2003, 03:11:36 PM »

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KISS....Keep It Simple Stupid

We were using this quote in the Air Force in 1971. It 's compatriot qutoe is RTFQ. Read the f**king question.

~~Stony~~