HTC, for 1.07, can you please, PLEASE remove the inflight Radar?

[SirLoin]

Oops,almost forgot..And keep the tower-dar..<S!>

[lazs]

What?  game not boring enough for you as it is?   Even with the in flight dar it is hard enough to find a DECENT fite in AH.  WB was a completely different matter.   In WB you looked at the dar and went there... Ther was a 99% chance that you would find fighters there or that the field would be closed and be yours in a minute or so.   With the lame-o fighter hanger closure bug in AH all you find is a field with a couple of de-roofed buildings for damage and no fighters and maybe a dozen osties... and it stays enemey territory inteminably.

Again... it all boils down to the fighter hanger bug.
lazs

[Graywolf]

 

Originally posted by Dago:
This is almost funny.

In WW2, fighters often flew hours and hours, mission after mission without finding an enemy, never having a fight.  

Q:How many players in AH would be content to do that?

A: NONE

Nope, at least one, but then people tell me I'm odd...  


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[Dowding]

Yet another (barely thought out) demand for 'ultra-realism'.

Yeah, I'll fly around for a couple of hours before finding a fight. Then I'll fight for a few minutes before dying. And then, I'll do it all over again. Oh, the joy!

Some modification should be made to the radar system, but turning it off altogether is definitely not the answer.

What do you guys do for fun outside AH? Play golf? Sweet Jesus!  

[AG Sachsenberg]

 

What do you guys do for fun outside AH? Play golf? Sweet Jesus!    (Image removed from quote.)

Actually golf can be quite fun when you play a beer a hole.  Might last a couple hours longer and piss those off behind ya, but I bet ya will swear more times out there then you do flying this sim.   And i second the idea

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Verkaaft's mei Gwand `I foahr in himmel!
Sell my clothes I am going to Heaven!

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[Revvin]

I'd love to see no inflight dar but I don't think we will ever see it gone because there are too many arcade flyers here who want it left in, shame really as it seems this one 'feature' is what keeps alot of players out of AH.

 



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Revvin
No.9 Squadron RAF

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Only Quakers use online rdar in WW2 sim !

Ps: buying stones  to replace the guns in 190  

[miko2d]

 Sector bars realistically represent radio updates from the tower telling pilots "there are friendly units and also there is (a lot of) something somewhere in your area". They would even give you approximate altitude (average, high, real high).

 Other players may do that from the tower, like in WB, but the game is about flying for your money, not playing flight controller.

 Such situation updates were not too accurate and not very frequent. There was nothing like a point-radar of course, so that one should go.

 miko

[NHFoxtro]

 

Originally posted by Edbert MOL:
Mr. T,

Have you considered joining a squad? If you have and still do not get any participation maybe you need to join a squad that understands the value of assisting each other. Just a thought.

He is in a squad.  

[Jayhawk]

 

Originally posted by Dowding:
Yet another (barely thought out) demand for 'ultra-realism'.

Yeah, I'll fly around for a couple of hours before finding a fight. Then I'll fight for a few minutes before dying. And then, I'll do it all over again. Oh, the joy!

Some modification should be made to the radar system, but turning it off altogether is definitely not the answer.

What do you guys do for fun outside AH? Play golf? Sweet Jesus!  

Not turn it off altogether...just the inflight crutch. You would still have sector bars and tower radar. What more do you need? How do you find a fight now? Don't you look in the tower radar to find the field closest to the action? The inflight "dot dar" is not needed. It ruins the need for any BIR (beyond icon range (tm) ) SA. You just fly to the gaggle of dots on the radar. You can do the same thing from the tower radar you just have slower refresh times (per sortie). I say kill the tacas system and use the tower radar.

 This is not ultra realism. If I wanted that I would be asking for not dot dar anywhere and you would get a radar position like a gunner with a dish instead of a gun. Your display would be a line graph showing range ( _____|____ ) to target. You would have to point the dish to the target for max amplitude for altitude and direction. Then you would have to give these vectors to the planes in flight. In other words a radar operators position. That would be realism. All I would like to see is a concesion from the modern ATC setup w/tacas we have now.

[buhdman]

For it.  It would definitely add to the pucker factor.

[Mr. T]

 

Originally posted by Edbert MOL:
Mr. T,

Have you considered joining a squad? If you have and still do not get any participation maybe you need to join a squad that understands the value of assisting each other. Just a thought.

I am in one and I consider them to be the best group of people I have ever had the priviledge of being associated with.... problem is a lot of the time they aren't online. Now that proves to be a bit of dilemma.

Unless you think I should call them at home, or at work while they are doing something important to them in their life and say "Hey dude, could you log in and look at the map on the tower... I can't find anything cuz no one else will reply to me."

Knights, Rooks, Bishops... all the same. I can ask all I want but until I flood the channel with the same question repeatedly I don't get an answer.

-SW

[Wlfgng]

I agree.

No dots/inflight dar.
just sector bars while inflight
and dots from the tower.

You can still find a fight by sector bar.

[AKDejaVu]

 

First.....I would have to agree with Mark Luper. When a post to change a feature or a "out of the box" idea is posted a very few select group of players seem to pounce on the poster.

Of course, these people that are pounced on are always presenting well thought out, well represented and non-insulting posts.

They never start with "HTC I QUIT IF YOU DON'T...." or "ANYONE THAT DOES THIS SUCKS" or "DO THIS NOW!" or simply decides to insult people before even presenting an argument.

The poor victims of this game.

How about this... if people want to avoid hostile replies, try by avoiding inults in the very first sentance of the post.  That would be a really great place to start.  Then, try thinking a tad bit about what is being proposed and who it is making the game better for.

As for the idea of turning off Radar for the sake of in flight realism.. I'm all for it.  ...Just as soon as we have pilots willing to patrol designated bases doing nothing but waiting for aircraft... with other pilots on standby in the tower waiting to relieve them when their patrol is done.

Nobody wants realism in this game.. that is not fun.

AKDejaVu

[Hooligan]

Ferchrissakes, it is freaking hard enough to find a fight in this game as it is.  Without in flight radar it will become impossible far more often.  

As far as the realism arguments go:  WWII fighters had ground controllers vectoring them to the enemy aircraft.  Except for the missing altitude information, the AH radar dots simulate this well enough.  I suppose if HTC added a command to request information (something like .vector) that would yield a list of enemy positions i.e.:

5 enemy bearing 285, alt 15k, heading 90
2 enemy bearing 315, alt 1k, heading 0
etc.....

then the inflight DAR could be dispensed with.

Of course, the current system is so much easier and already in place....

Hooligan