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Offline beet1e

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« Reply #330 on: July 07, 2003, 10:05:21 AM »
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Beetle....

How about it never happened in RL? One single aircraft penetrating enemy airspace, single handedly wiping out an entire bases fuel.
Well, if we're going to talk about RL, what's all this about wanting the fields to be less than 5 minutes apart? I don't think that happened in WW2 either. 190 fighting 190, Spit fighting Spit? Nope, pretty sure that didn't happen either. Seems like Selective Realism™ is at work again.

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I hate the small maps.....absolutely despise them. There is no way to avoid the gangbangs on the small maps. It doesnt matter where you go, the fronts are so small that there is always a horde on the way to whatever base you want to fly from. At least on the bigger maps, you can head out to a base along the perimeter of the front and rustle up some action that is usually even for both sides but doesnt turn into a huge gangbang. Maybe 5 on 5 or so.
I'm very much inclined to agree with you. Looks like you're on US Central time (?) so the problem is worse for you than on Euro Prime Time. In addition to what you said, because the fields are closer together, Doofus-Dweebius is more tempted to engage in steamroller-horde, pork-n-auger, suicide-and-reuppage tactics.

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« Reply #331 on: July 07, 2003, 10:17:11 AM »
"Rude, see the above. I'm indifferent to field spacing. But I don't think you've read all I had to say, in particular what happened after terrain rollover yesterday. Things had been good on Trinity, but as soon as Mindano came up, the Bish began their TYPH missuns. Suiciding and reuppage become so much more feasible when the fields are closer together, as on the children's maps. That's the problem I have with fields being moved closer together ..."

I have always liked AKDESERT, I love Trinity and BigIsles. These small maps SUCK, especially Mindano. Beet1e, you are right when you point out that once we get one of the "childrens" maps up, the gangbang/suicide fest begins. I disagree that the closer fields are the root of this gameplay ... I believe that it is due to the lack of airfields in conjucntion with the size of the fighting fronts .. the fronts are too small for the amount of player that are on during primetime and weekends.

"As for having an early war area within an arena, with an independent reset, and moving fields around as if they were furniture, I don't think some of the guys suggesting these changes have ever done any programming. I have never done any game programming, but I do know that what might seem like a minor change to some could involve a major system rewrite. Map development is a huge enterprise, and as HTC has already told us, the game is not set up to allow for subarena reset. To implement that change could be hugely costly in terms of coding effort and testing... and at the end of the day, people will still be whining about the outcome. So I predict that HTC will do the most sensible thing of all: Nothing."

I do agree that if the foundation for this logic is not already in place, then a significant effort might be needed to pull this off.

I hope that HT DOES SOMETHING however ... maybe after the dust has settled in AHII: TOD.
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« Reply #332 on: July 07, 2003, 02:04:30 PM »
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bbg... like I said... bout four guys worth a damn... you will probly lose em.


lazs..first we have many more then "4" who are worth a dam..
and worth what???....people who  can furbal??

2nd..now i really think u are a moron...care to name who you think will leave..cause i would love to laff some more at you..

again...lmfao...moron


3rd..ya  these small maps arent working very well any more...


again.....u dont know watermelon about MAW...so "finger":p

name the four if you arent a bieacah....but can you or do you just spout off and run??   sissy

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« Reply #333 on: July 07, 2003, 02:15:07 PM »
That's easy BGB-

The 4 best Furballers in the MAW:

MuckMAW
Go4MAW
ForkMAW
TgoosMAW

I had Dlamb on the list but I remembered he was drummed out.:D

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« Reply #334 on: July 07, 2003, 02:19:31 PM »
bbg well... we got that all straight now... we both think the other is a moron.

oh, your spelling is fine it's the content that is moronic.   Not sure how typing with the wrong hand has anything to do with the ability to spell or content tho.

As for maw.. the more I know of em the less I like em... talk about sissies... you guys ever go on a "missun" where you don't have at least 5/2 odds in your favor?

well... enough about that... drink up and take care of that hand.

lazs

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« Reply #335 on: July 07, 2003, 02:26:33 PM »
Let me translate BGB's post for you Lazs, as he is currently operating with one paw, and drugged out of his mind.

*reading over BGB's post...again.*

Hmmmm,

Oh, here...

He asked you to name the 4 people who you are sure we'll lose, and he called you a moron and a sissy.

I hope this clarifies the post for you so that you'll have no trouble answering the question and provinding the 4 names, and you'll see no need to simply side-step that question with glib remarks.

Looking forward to your list.

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« Reply #336 on: July 07, 2003, 02:47:11 PM »
where did I say I was "sure" you would lose anyone?   I said you only had about 4 guys worth a damn and that you would probly lose em...

You allready lost ouch... great guy.   What makes you think you won't lose more?  

truth is... when I do talk to maw on local vox they are all pretty good guys.   course... I talk to em cause I am giving em a 6 call or vice versa because we are in the thick of it together.   The thought of those guys "auger and join the missun" is laughable.

as for your drunken squaddie... If I even half believed he would say his crap to my face instead of on a BB I might take him serious..  I don't think so tho.   He lacks the wit to talk like that to peoples faces... he would simply get knocked on his butt.

so... I will leave you to your roleplaying commander.  If you want to be a BB tough guy then that's ok too but it sounds a little silly coming from guys who give themselves rank eh luke?
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« Reply #337 on: July 07, 2003, 02:56:04 PM »
I give up....I'll defer to my original premise....HT's game, he'll do whatever HE feels will increase his bottom line. That's what it's all about and rightly so.

I'll continue to play and continue to have fun...when that is no longer possible, I'll leave and go find something else to do...this silly talkin to brick walls is a waste of time.

Give it up Lazs....it is what it is. It has nothing to do with what works overall, but rather what works for the masses.

Beetle....it's clear to me that you hold no unbiased objective opinion of your own, your gaming needs are being met and that's what matters....have fun.

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« Reply #338 on: July 07, 2003, 03:00:08 PM »
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where did I say I was "sure" you would lose anyone?   I said you only had about 4 guys worth a damn and that you would probly lose em...

You allready lost ouch... great guy.   What makes you think you won't lose more?  

truth is... when I do talk to maw on local vox they are all pretty good guys.   course... I talk to em cause I am giving em a 6 call or vice versa because we are in the thick of it together.   The thought of those guys "auger and join the missun" is laughable.

as for your drunken squaddie... If I even half believed he would say his crap to my face instead of on a BB I might take him serious..  I don't think so tho.   He lacks the wit to talk like that to peoples faces... he would simply get knocked on his butt.

so... I will leave you to your roleplaying commander.  If you want to be a BB tough guy then that's ok too but it sounds a little silly coming from guys who give themselves rank eh luke?
lazs



I've known BGB for a while. Trust me, he would say it to your face, gramps.

Oh, and we're still waiting for those names "Tough Guy".

Or are we doing the now famous, "Lassie Shuffle"?

Better send out the E-mails and get the TAS and BK BBS backup before your get ganged.

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« Reply #339 on: July 07, 2003, 03:00:16 PM »
Ok guys, don't drag me into the middle of this.

I left the MAW because I didn't care for their "thing", which is base capture.  

The basic response I got at the time was "well there are 5 other nights that you can do something else".  Honestly, on those 5 nights, almost everyone from the MAW that was on was doing base capture.  

I figured, "Hell, I don't like what they like, and they don't really care about what I like, so I need to go look for people who do care about what I care about.  Furballs!"

(There were other reasons as well, like my refusal to auger planes because someone decides to change the mission mid flight.  Ruins the 'immersion' factor.)

Ouch out

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« Reply #340 on: July 07, 2003, 03:15:41 PM »
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The 4 best Furballers in the MAW:

MuckMAW
Go4MAW
ForkMAW
TgoosMAW


Where's icemaw? :)

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« Reply #341 on: July 07, 2003, 03:18:21 PM »
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Ok guys, don't drag me into the middle of this.

I left the MAW because I didn't care for their "thing", which is base capture.  

The basic response I got at the time was "well there are 5 other nights that you can do something else".  Honestly, on those 5 nights, almost everyone from the MAW that was on was doing base capture.  

I figured, "Hell, I don't like what they like, and they don't really care about what I like, so I need to go look for people who do care about what I care about.  Furballs!"

(There were other reasons as well, like my refusal to auger planes because someone decides to change the mission mid flight.  Ruins the 'immersion' factor.)

Ouch out


Ouch-

You were a good man to fly with while we had you. I'll never forget the story you told us about how you got your callsign. Man, that was some funny stuff.

I understand the squad was not a fit for you, and am happy you have found a home with a premier furball squad.

Personally, I'm not a fan of the auger thing, and try to avoid it as much as possible. Frankly, it's not that bad anymore. The CO's are pretty understanding when it comes to holding back mission times.

Either way, this is nothing personal about you Ouch. It's simply Lazs' way of trying rub our noses your moving to BKs.

I wish you well in your endeavors.

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« Reply #342 on: July 07, 2003, 03:20:18 PM »
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Where's icemaw? :)


Ice sucks. He lets his little sister log on for 2 hours a day to pad his score for him.;)

Those 4 guys are the most dedicated furballers the MAW has, no matter what Slapshot says.;)

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« Reply #343 on: July 07, 2003, 04:47:29 PM »
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Where's icemaw? :)


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« Reply #344 on: July 07, 2003, 04:49:41 PM »
"Those 4 guys are the most dedicated furballers the MAW has, no matter what Slapshot says."

Yup ... thems is da ones.
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