con·ser·va·tive: 1.) Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change
lib·er·al: 1.) Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas. 2.) Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
This is not to say that Conservatives are automatically religious maniacs, as many of us detest the same firebrand types as you (Liberals) do.
We're we differ can be seen above in the simplet definitions available; one side of the argument is happy with the way things are and we wish to maintain our way of life. The other side is discontent with many things and wishes to bring change to society.
Change is a good thing in many respects. The views of a Liberal minded person are most welcome in many circumstances, and in most cases, I think you will find that many Conservatives will jump on the boat with you once a convinceing arguement is made and agree that change, in a particular area, is necessary and would improve life for the vast majority of the population.
The problem today, as I see it, is that there are no problems.
Speaking from a purely domestic point of view, what is wrong with our country?
Sure we have poor, but we also have rich. Thats capitalism. Of course we have homeless, but again, thats a byproduct of capitalism. We do everything in our power to help these people along in the form of shelters and mana's, but at the end of the day, this is the land of opportunity, not the land of free handouts.
These are irritations in the grand scheme of things.
The conservatives' frustration comes from the fact that no matter how many times we take a step back and agree that something should change, its never enough. Liberal minded people seem to be constantly searching for something wrong with everything. Doesn't sound very
tolerant, they must not be liberals.
Lets be honest here, how many of you are grossly offended by the fact that hurricanes dont have racially diverse names? How many of you are honestly offended by a plaque of the 10 Commandments outside a courthouse?The 10 Commandments don't bother me at all. Neither does a Nativity scene. (I could go on about other religious displays) Many religious things don't bother me at all...as long as it's sponsored by the private sector and not on govt property. As an American I hold very dear many of our principals including the Separation of Church and State. I would object equally as much if the govt started forcing religious schools to teach evolution and started taxing the churches (for example).
Hey, as long as the 10 Commandments monument was on non-govt property and paid for by private monies, I'd think it would be a good thing.
You dont want to read the 10 Commandments? Dont read them. This has nothing to do with our wanting or not wanting to read the 10 Commandments. It has everything to do to keep separate Church and State. Why can't you understand that?
Why is it that the people in the gay thread preaching about tolerance and acceptance are the same people in this thread preaching about intolerance for somethign else? Are you only tolerant of behavior that you dont see a problem with? Being tolerant of something suggests that whatever you are tolerant of is something you disagree with. I disagree with homosexuality, but Im tolerant of it. I dont go knocking down doors of the local gay population and try and catch them pushing their **** in. I let them do what they like - Im tolerant.You're
tolerant? Heh, by definition you must be a liberal then
. BTW, Mr tolerant, do you support the right of homosexuals to legally marry?
You, on the other hand, take a different approach, and its the approach that causes even more anger. You do in fact knock down doors in an attempt to change the way people live their lives. You are not tolerant. You want change, and if change is not wanted by the rest, you lobby Congress for laws that force others to conform to your wishes. Liberalism today is the ultimate incarnation of hypocracy. How can you champion tolerance, acceptance, and totallack of bigotry, while at the same time, utilize meathods completely at odds with your mindset to achieve your aims?How do we "knock down doors to change the way people live their lives?"
Seems that judge in Alabama was doing the "knocking down doors to change the way people live their lives" by going against US Law and putting that 10 Commandments monolith on govt property. BTW our very concervative Supreme Court ruled that he was violating the law by putting the religious monolith on govt property. So is the Supreme Court being intolerant because they are upholding the law, or is that judge being intolerant because he doesn't want to obey that law?
These colonies, and indeed this country were/was founded on a single principle: Freedom. In the United States, we believe in freedom, liberation to attain that freedom, and force to protect that freedom.
Our government for the passed 200 odd years has reflected this. Freedom to be an individual, ungoverned by a ruling class, is why people came here. Freedom FROM government.
Lately, it seems that this trend is dying. Some of the legislation over the past 15 years is almost scary. No longer is our government protecting our rights to be individuals in a free and safe society, but it has folded to public pressure from individuals confused enough to stand in front of an Israeli bulldozer, and is now dictating HOW we should live our lives.40 hr work week, Child Labor Laws, Freedom from sexual harrasment in the workplace, public lynchings, Labor Unions, Anti-trust Act, FDA, EPA, Racism, Voting rights for minorities and women, etc. Yeah, things are so much worse than the "Olden days." BTW, many of these changes for the better were made by "liberal" thinking policy makers.
Are any liberals telling you that you can't go to the church of your choice?
Are they telling you what type of relations you can have with another conscenting adult?
LOL, many examples, so little room to post.
Whether or not we've ever had a 'Hurricane Jay-Z' is not one of the big issues facing our society today - so please - stop treating it as such and expecting us to take you seriously. And after you figure out that we're not listening, please dont resort to taunts of 'caveman' and 'racist.' Its growing tiresome... especially when the usage of such terms is aimed only at forcing conformity through shame or embarressment.LOL, names of hurricanes and typhoons don't really concern me, guess we're in agreement on more important issues at hand.
If anyone makes a racist statement, they should expect to be called one. Do you feel one should have the privelige of spouting racist messages without the consequences of being called on it?
Not everyone is interested in conforming to your rules or your definition of what the status quo should be. As Americans we are ALL different. Different in culture, race, and creed. BINGO! I can't agree with you more! So why do you agree with someone trying to force his religious views on someone else?
Liberals claim to be tolerant of all - so why not let all of us be different? How so?
BTW why do you have this need to use such a broadbrush label when describing a minority of people? By definition I must be mostly liberal. I feel I am very tolerant of different things, ideals, and people.
