Originally posted by lazs2
deja.. your point is taken but... I believe that certain truts are undeniable and I think there is a reason that they go over your head.
I know you think they are truths lazs. That doesn't really mean they go over my head... it means yours is incapable of seeing anything different.
The truth is that in an arena where all planes are allowed then the best way to get the most choice of gameplay and usable ac choice is either to be extremely good with a whole lot of patience or.... fly a map with a lot of fields close together.
The truth is that you would say this no matter what lazs. You believe it to be a truth, you support it whenever you can. Don't call me close minded when you refuse to see otherwise.
Here is a truth: You are bored with the MA
The rest is simply a blame game.
Standing behind you watching you fly made it a little clearer.... yu are very good at this and... you are VERY easily amused... I don't know what you are enjoying but you seem to be... when the lone 190 drifted down to make his sissy little passes at your P40.... I groaned.... I was allready bored with doing what I considered doing nothing for 5 minutes (puting myself in your place) but you were content... a groaned because the 190 attack was sooooo predictable and so unfun to me but.... you enjoyed it...
Not sure how to take this lazs... but I do believe you are jumping to one hell of a conclusion based on 5 minutes of observation. The great irony is that the "190" situation has nothing to do with the map... but how people fly 190's... b and z and nothing else. It's as predictable as it gets regardless of the map. It's also ironic that I was constantly finding fights despite the fester map not being up.
Here's what I observed about you lazs, and it has nothing to do with how you play. You mentioned fester's map 20 times in the first 5 minutes you were at the con. Hell, you even said it helped lighten traffic in the SF area, solve world hunger and put an end to infant mortality. I'm exagerating a bit, but not much. All this after you'd played it for nearly an hour one night.
With your skill and patience level it wouldn't matter what map was up or how many fights you found or of what quality... even ones that are really non-fights... you seem to make the most of them all... Admittedly.... that is the best way to be but is completely contrary to my nature... if I don't have a dozen or more fights an hour I may as well be doing laundry or loading all those dirty dishes into the dishwasher.
Ah... here we have arrived.
Truth: You are bored with the game
Why is entirely subjective. But what you've listed above has nothing to do with the map lazs. The map does not make fights better or worse... the people do. And guess what... those same people are flying on all of the maps.
I've been in furballs where you were located lazs. They were no more or less fun than anything else. It was just a series of people jumping on engaged aircraft... a giant daisy chain. I've followed you out of a fight before to see you run all the way back to your base rather than engage. I've seen you do the things you claim make the game boring. At the very same time, you were insisting that good fights were hard to find. I believe you were looking in the wrong direction then, as you are now.
I believe that close fields offer the most choice for everyone... I really believe that festers map proves this. I believe the reaction to it was predictable... allmost universal acceptance except by the few truly evil "enemies of fun" The grinches who feel attention is being taken away from them and they don't have enough affect on all the other players for their "effort".
I believe you'd believe this regardless. I believe your oppinion on this is as biased as those you are labeling with every one of your posts. You have not played it but 2 times, yet your convinced it is the solution.
Moving bases closer together moves the fights to the bases. This means aircraft at bases... not between them. The fights aren't closer, the fields are. There is more ack running, gang banging, vulching and overall dweebery on the fester map than any other I've seen. Somehow, this is seen as better.
I was saluted by someone on Saturday because I dared engage the 8 of them with my P-40 as they hovered over a base not trying to attack it but simply vulch it. Later that very same pilot screamed "4 on 1!!!" as he returned to that same base were a few people had up'd to defend it... then he went to fight elsewhere. I can come up with several such stories in regards to fester's map... as well as many other maps. I have screenshots where not a single red bar-dar con was in the same sector as a green bar-dar con.... across the whole front on fester's map. This has nothing to do with the map, but the behavior of those playing in it.
People aren't looking for good fights any more, they're looking for easy fights. There's a big difference. This map makes it easier to get to an enemy base or back to a friendly base. It does nothing to improve the frequency or quality of fights. Late war rides are just as prevelant as any other map, yet magically people insist that doesn't really matter on this map. It's just easier to find a situation where you have the advantage in fester's map. You might find that fun, but I do not. Ironic how you say I'm the one that's easily amused.
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