Author Topic: 30 on 5 -The Horde Mentality (Read 11504 times)

Toad · « **Reply #15 on:** November 30, 2003, 12:05:28 PM »

Lately I've been thinking that TOD may have the opposite effect of what I had first supposed.

Given the current situation on the big maps/far fields, it may turn out that the best chance of real action may be in the TOD setup. If I understand that concept, it's based around setting up an actual ENGAGEMENT.

Wouldn't it be funny if all the strateegerists ended up in the MA steamrollering bases in their lemming hordes and patting themselves on the back about how they "won the war" while the guys that like to fight ended up in TOD getting far better fights than these big boring maps offer?

Oh, the irony if that happens!

Batz · « **Reply #16 on:** November 30, 2003, 12:23:54 PM »

You maybe right. HT has said there would be no war winning or base capture in the ToD arena.. There will be no need for "impact players". OTOH, if there is no balance, one that satisfies those who are looking toward the rps element HT mentioned and encouraging "combat" we may find long boring flights where folks avoid contact. What ever happens I don’t know that we will see a return to 50-75 man fur balls like we used to see at a4 and a5 on the island map.

Maybe rename the main "Territorial Combat Arena".

Keep the "TOD Arena"

And close the ct and Change it to the "Air Combat Arena" with no trappings of the silly war winning and small maps laid out to facilitate the fight. Rotate fighters based on year but have all the planes available to both sides.

Of course this may split the main and the need for large maps will go away.

AKIron · « **Reply #17 on:** November 30, 2003, 12:46:58 PM »

30 Rook vs 5 Bish? Sounds evenly matched to me.

whels · « **Reply #18 on:** November 30, 2003, 01:02:38 PM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
Beet ... you thread hijackin' bastage.

He is talking about the INFINITY MAP !!!

The fields are NOT spaced close together on this map so your post is "muut".

ud better go read the map again, or for 1st time.
there are bases on Infinity that are less then 5 miles apart, majority are within 15. some bases i can just about sit on 1 field and shell the other with a tank.

lol bases not close.

bockko · « **Reply #19 on:** November 30, 2003, 01:20:41 PM »

sure whels, there may be a few close but they must be few because I can't recall seeing two airfields 5 miles apart. Infinity fields are far apart, more irritating than pizza which theses days seems like one of the better maps.

Dobe · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2003, 01:59:34 PM »

I agree the mentality in AH has gotten to the point,that I can only stomach it for short periods of time..cancelled account,and on R and R here.
The three country thing is a poor idea,and I concur with the others that a two sided war would work better.That isn't going to happen because the dropping of a Bish Nit Rook country is unthinkable.
Raising the price is a great idea.Get rid of the unskilled lemmings,and run a few guys back to War Birds, as they sure could use the help.Sixty players when I checked the other night.
Yes, I been thinking of going back to War Birds,but I hate joining a sinking ship.
I don't believe anything will happen to change the situation,and come to think of it,all flight sims I flew since ICI's first effort,have been in the same predicament.
Hats off to the gents that can handle the map fiasco,channel one half wits,milk runners,LaLaNikSpitPonyP40 dweebs,steal killers,smack talking,lemmings etc.
If we are holding out for AH updates to fix everything,I think we are only fooling ourselves!

Dobe

SlapShot · « **Reply #21 on:** November 30, 2003, 02:04:18 PM »

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Originally posted by whels
ud better go read the map again, or for 1st time.
there are bases on Infinity that are less then 5 miles apart, majority are within 15. some bases i can just about sit on 1 field and shell the other with a tank.

lol bases not close.

Oh .. OK whels ... I'll go look again ... I don't have much time in on this map ...

Yes, there are some fields that are close together .. feel better ... but the majority aren't. I spend most of the past few days flying at least a sector or sector and a-half to attack bases hoping to get a rise out of someone to come on up and fight.

The comparision I was making was in reference to FesterMA.

SlapShot · « **Reply #22 on:** November 30, 2003, 02:08:37 PM »

"Raising the price is a great idea.Get rid of the unskilled lemmings,and run a few guys back to War Birds ...

Yeah ... thats the solution.

What's the ceiling price that will eliminate those that bother you?

Are you going to be the one that decides who is an unskilled lemming ? Lets see your list ... you must have one ... right ?

Which War Bird guys get the boot ? Start naming some names.

Hajo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 30, 2003, 02:29:04 PM »

Ya know......it MAY not be the size of the Map. (Notice the word may)......logged onto Trinity at 3:10PM...looked at Map.

Noticed one lousy sector....believe was 214 that had 3 huge red
dar bars in surrounding grids....two huge green ones.
Sporadic fights in some other areas...but few.

Noticed also in last month or so...lotta new names on text buffer.
Maybe the first person shooter mob has arrived.

Scenerio....log on...see map...go to defend base...go to tower, sit
in tower.....notice suicide Jabos de ack fiield...cuss at self for not
jumping into plane to get 20 prox kills as they auger into the tarmac. Ack is gone....they show up again to vulch anyone trying
to raise their gear. The testically challenged have finally arrived
from other games!

Pooh21 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 30, 2003, 02:34:03 PM »

They been here. Scenario for the last year. They even got there own squads where they slam into the ground in unison, 9typh for example. Theres guys from there you can sit in a cv and set your watch by em,kill him with the 5in go out for exactly 5min hop back in and watch him suicide auger again. Fields are far apart,takes forever to get to a fight, you get there its a gangbang, dont matter in whose favor they both suck. Or you fly 1/2 hour to get to the dang field and no one ups, maybe a pony will come along at 30k and then proceed to make a few limp wristed BnZ sprays before running to ack.

Dobe · « **Reply #25 on:** November 30, 2003, 03:23:32 PM »

Slapshot
1. price $24.95,same as Warbirds
2. Don't keep a list it,just call it as I see it,and many others agree with me.
3. I'm not booting guys back to Warbirds.Warbirds once had many excellent pilots,that came here because they gave up on Warbirds.Make the price the same,and they'll go back.
4. All I'm doing is agreeing with others,that the game has become boring,unexiciting,aggravating etc.While HTC has become complacent to the players suggestions and needs.
5. You have every right to disagree with me,and I respect your opinion,and your right to have it.

Dobe

Shane · « **Reply #26 on:** November 30, 2003, 03:40:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Dobe
Slapshot
4. All I'm doing is agreeing with others,that the game has become boring,unexiciting,aggravating etc.While HTC has become complacent to the players suggestions and needs.

Dobe

the game is basically the same as it ever was. players make the gameplay what it is. you (generic) changed, not the game. you (generic) stood by while the "game" - altho' you really should say, "gameplay" - supposedly has degraded. gameplay has "degraded" because not enough so-called vets have pulled their load in educamacting noobs on the finer points of the game/play. too many stood idly by or led by mediocre example. motives for signing up are as diverse as the player population. that doesn't mean those motives have only one path to fullfillment.

what have you done to try and reverse the tide of "dweebery" ? have you tried edumacating the "dweebs"? I have. I've had some success on a case by case basis.

subscription $$ is not the problem/answer. plenty of dweebs and bungholes at $30 as there are at $15. $$$ does not equal class or experience.

nopoop · « **Reply #27 on:** November 30, 2003, 03:40:50 PM »

First:

There's no such thing as a P40 dweeb. Other than the silly site of seeing a pilot try to get in to that small cockpit with the HUGE balls..

Second:

"Make the price the same,and they'll go back"

Price has nothing to do with it.

The vast majority that landed here from WB aren't twelve, and don't live on an allowence..

Price isn't why they left.

The reason "why" they left is alive and well. It continues.

But price isn't part of that equation.

Shane · « **Reply #28 on:** November 30, 2003, 03:49:27 PM »

and because nopoop is slacking....

Dobe · « **Reply #29 on:** November 30, 2003, 05:39:30 PM »

p40 dweeb....hehe thought I'd get a few bites with that one.
places rod and reel back in holder!