Originally posted by Citabria:
(hopefully physics changes in FM will fix this imbalance)
Huh? Pyro clearly stated that the climbrates and topspeeds wont change. The planes will lose less speed in turns. That includes ALL the planes.Your hopes are vanished.
it zooms better than any plane in AHSo? historically 190A5 was a wonderful zoomer. Fw190A8 in Aces High is one of the best zoomers here,too...didnt you ever notice?
Uh yeah I guess you never tried it, not worth a squeak because A8 is so heavy and not exactly the nimble fighter A5 is,eh citabria?
it stalls at under 100mph
it has no torque at low speedWHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?! lol
Piece of crap. show me a film that shows a 190 not stalling in Straight fly at less than 100mph. THen I'll believe you.Until then I think that what you say is pure crap.
About the torque thing, if you expect a 109's torque you will have problems, because 190 is one of the most stable planes in this planeset. Also its lateral control is so wonderful that it is easy to correct.
P51 has,too, very few torque effects. Why dont you squeak about it citabria?...why dont you cry at P51's lack of torque?
LOL when I say that people here cant stand a nimble german plane...
it turns better than the american planes Oh,Great Citabria,enlighten this dweeb who doesnt know how to turn a 190A5 after flying it 95% of his time, because I never FLAT outturned an american plane in it, unless I had twice his E to start with.
of course high-low yoyos doesnt count dont they? if the other guy doesnt know some ACMs is not my fault,nor my plane's
one of the best 190 flyers I know dosnt even fly it...
they say its way to easy to kill anything in it, it dosnt even take any skill so they fly the 190a8Who?...yes A8 is a better challenge. A bigger one. Truly the biggest of all because A8 is a brick compared with anything else in this planeset.
But for me (lonewolf furballing type) A5 suits me better.I fly it as I flew A8, and the results are amazing.
It is like a marathon runner who trains with a 50lbs weight handicapping him,when he quits the weight he can run like in a dream.
When 190 loses that extra weight it is like a dream,too. Still is a 190, with its bassic advantages and shortcomings. So I fly using all its advantages, and falling in as few shorthcomings as I can.
the spit IX dosnt stand a chance vs a 190 the 190 out zooms even the zoom master spit 9SpitIX accelerates better over 10K. At 20K SpitIX has 10 mph more than historically. Wich is the porked plane?.
Tests in WWII concluded that the only advantage SpitIX had over 190A4 was the turnrate. Other things were in 190's side, or equal. And the 190 was easier to handle.
What happens is that usually when 190s attack spits in AH they do it with more E to start with. And that is enough as FW190A5 is an equal to the Spitfire IX.
then runs away in a warp fest when it screws up.the only plane I see warp in a regular basis is the C205. Still have to hear any rant about it like the ones I hear about A5.
BTW I NEVER, and I say NEVER, saw A5's "teoric" warproll. IMHO it doesnt exist.
so exactly what is going on with the 190a5?That you cant afford having a german plane that outmanouvers (I dont say outturn) anything else in this planeset. And you squeak about it. And you moan. and you cry.
all i see in the MA is tons of no skill dweebs flying around in 190a5s warp rolling and zooming and turning and burning.I see a lot of no skill dweeb A5s flying around in 190A5s. I kill them all because they TRY to turn and burn. If you dont do it is because you dont know to fly.
And again I never saw a single warproll of an A5.
oh but thats what it really was like you say?
yeah i bet it was.Mostly, yes. Thats why RAF was so scared of this plane. That was because VVS was so scared of this plane.
USAAF fighters didnt feared it so much because mostly in 1944 there were only A8s in the western front flown by kids.
If you turn and burn in a Fw190A5 you will die FAST.and imean FAST If you do E conservative moves you will live longer. Still it cant outrun nearly all the usual planes in this planeset.
I say that it is a pretty good compromise, in fact I think is the german equivalent of the Spitfire IX,but severely handicapped by the fact that over 10K it doesnt accelerate at all. Spitfires climb up to 25-30K in a regular basis. guess who is in a disadvantage here.
w 2 cannons and 25% fuel it climbs at over 5000 fpm.in your dreams ,maybe. Not in Aces High.
Stop the rant Citabria, or I'll start my Why-the-P47-outtunrs-everything-with-no-lose-of-E crusade,or the Why-my-190-hasnt-automatic-trim-as-real-190s-had.
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 08-20-2000).]
