Author Topic: Small Maps – a Creeping Process. Hmmm… (Read 11964 times)

Toad · « **Reply #45 on:** March 05, 2004, 12:55:57 PM »

Ah, I understand perfectly.

You had a lot of fun capturing a base because you were essentially unopposed.

Congrats.

Sounds simply......... simply.............. simply............

um........ thrilling?

SlapShot · « **Reply #46 on:** March 05, 2004, 01:22:58 PM »

"Three things I noticed that were most unusual: I saw no enemy P51 or LA7, there were no interlopers once we had the field capped, and I was able to land without some LA7 opportunist vulching me from the field next door."

Heaven forbid someone come in an contest your storming/milkrunnining a base. I mean, once you eliminate the enemy in the immediate area, there should be no one allowed to fly from a nearby base and try to beat you back to where you came from ... no more calvary allowed in AH !!

Steve-o ... I smell something too !!!!

mars01 · « **Reply #47 on:** March 05, 2004, 01:28:08 PM »

Hey cmon,

Give beetle a break, you guys act like this is a combat flight sim. If I attack a base offline no one comes to bug me so I can see why he doesn't want anyone bugging him online.

Zazen13 · « **Reply #48 on:** March 05, 2004, 04:53:48 PM »

So let me get this straight. Beetle likes pizza map precisely BECAUSE bases are so many and so far apart? He can, at will, pork and vulch any base with little fear of retribution from another base due to the vast distances involved before his capture is completed?

Sounds like alot of milkrunning and vulching, but not much real fighting to me.

Zazen

beet1e · « **Reply #49 on:** March 05, 2004, 05:19:56 PM »

Muhahahahaha!

I see that eagle thing in so many avatars of those who replied. That's the "fly how you like, as long as you fly in the way that meets our approval" squad.

:lol:aok

No, no vulching involved. Just a 4v4 (or something like that). There was opposition, but we quashed it. And Steve - no interlopers meant that they had to fight it out right there - not up an LA7 (or P51D) rapid response squad from a field 2 minutes away. I can see how that might stick in the craw.

Now let's see... the enemy has.... flashing map, siren, bardar, "base under attack", radar... is it my fault if they choose not to defend their base? I think not, but in the event, they did! But not well enough. I have the film.

But I'm keeping it to myself for now.

AKD/Pizza: A most marvellous map. And one I know that HTC will want to keep in the cycle.

And now.... it's late.... time for bed, so...

Toodle-Pip

:)

mars01 · « **Reply #50 on:** March 05, 2004, 05:46:23 PM »

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I see that eagle thing in so many avatars of those who replied.

Its called a "Hat Trick"

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #51 on:** March 05, 2004, 05:48:41 PM »

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Originally posted by mars01
Its called a "Hat Trick"

you mean dweeb trick?

mars01 · « **Reply #52 on:** March 05, 2004, 05:51:54 PM »

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you mean dweeb trick?

How could it be a dweeb trick you had nothing to so with it:rofl

Steve · « **Reply #53 on:** March 05, 2004, 05:53:12 PM »

Beet, I couldn't get past the misspelled word to let the post soak in. You love to point out my errors...... find yours.

Ya, Baby!

OK, better now.

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no interlopers meant that they had to fight it out right there - not up an LA7 (or P51D) rapid response squad from a field 2 minutes away. I can see how that might stick in the craw.

So, if a country wants to defend a particular field, they should only be able to do so by upping at said field? Coming from another field is somehow bad form?

Rapid response... now THAT(those two words) we agree on. A guy or two wants to get to a base in a hurry, in order to defend or intercept goons/attackers so they up an la7, d9, tiffie or pony.. they're interlopers? If they came over in SpitV's they'd be welcome?

Get your fork out Beet1e, if you accept it now, your portion of crow will be rather small.

beet1e · « **Reply #54 on:** March 06, 2004, 12:36:09 AM »

We're getting off topic. This thread was not about maps, but map rotation. I know I'll never make some of you A.D.D. dolts accept the Pizza map, so I won't even try.

The issue some of you have with it is that the bases are "too far apart". And it's BS. After that fifth kill (an LA5 who had tried to grab alt and had then returned to fight us) I immediately returned to base. I slowed down and flew a left hand circuit, landed and exited plane. From last kill at the enemy base to exiting plane was 6 minutes and 20 seconds. I have the film, so don't argue with me...

...and you dolts are crying that the bases are too far apart? FFS!

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So, if a country wants to defend a particular field, they should only be able to do so by upping at said field? Coming from another field is somehow bad form?

It's dweebery at best. I've seen it lots of times, but much less on the pizza map because many people don't have the attention span to fly for 6 minutes. You kill a guy in a Zeke or a P40 or some other nondescript plane, and he ups an LA7 (or P51) from the nearest base - not the base where he died - and comes in with a 10K alt advantage. I've seen your films, and I can see why you wouldn't want this option removed.

Zazen13!

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So let me get this straight. Beetle likes pizza map precisely BECAUSE bases are so many and so far apart? He can, at will, pork and vulch any base with little fear of retribution from another base due to the vast distances involved

Little fear of retribution? - it was an even contest. The bases had one thing in common - they were both the same distance apart - lol! But what's this about "vast distances"? 6 minutes flying time? Oh puhleeeze

<- (one was not enough) Geez, the current bout of A.D.D. it's worse than I thought...

As a matter of fact, I did get killed on the second sortie: I had flown to the base heavy (2x1000 on a jug makes for a VERY heavy package) and when I got there, the aerial support was gone. A higher Spit was waiting for me, so I made a divebombing run on the VH and got away from him, but a much higher MOSS chased me down. Fair enough. They had at least 5 guys aware of the situation at A23, and they were up defending it. There were about 6 rooks involved in the skirmish. Again, I have film, so don't argue with me.

So, you furball wallies: Is it the fault of the Pizza map that those guys gave up the defence of A23? Erm... no.

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Sounds like alot of milkrunning and vulching, but not much real fighting to me.

I will paraphrase that: Sounds like an even contest, but not much of an arcade game to me.

I can't get over it - 6 minutes flying time is equated to a "vast distance".

And finally, Steve. Oh please point out my spelling mistakes... but you'd better hold on to that fork. You might be needing it yourself.

Steve · « **Reply #55 on:** March 06, 2004, 02:08:10 AM »

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I've seen your films, and I can see why you wouldn't want this option removed.

Beet1e, are you sure you want this in here? I sent you one film. One. That film started off w/ me and one other guy over an enemy base and not very high. It then moved to a friendly base w/ enemy cons higher than me. It then moved to me on the deck w/ an La7 running me down, which I killed 1v1. It then moved to me fighting a coalt but much faster and very well piloted(Geist) 110 w/ me down to 2 guns and very low on fuel. I killed him, 1v1.
Again, are you sure you wanted to say the above?

Toad · « **Reply #56 on:** March 06, 2004, 02:15:36 AM »

There's a reason that even Tomato calls him "Ol' Shifty"

beet1e · « **Reply #57 on:** March 06, 2004, 04:47:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Steve
Beet1e, are you sure you want this in here?

Why? Would you rather move to the O Club while we talk about the longevity of cats?

:lol You sent me various film files, but I think you did say that each was a different excerpt from a single film file. Now get back in your P51 and go and vulch the vulchers! You know they'll be down at 3K, so you should be safe at 15K.

BTW, did you say something about a spelling mistake?

Mr. Toad, you posted at 8:15 - way past your toodle-pip time! LOL - your remark about Tomato! Erm... I'm saying nothing... except... she's dying to meet you! We both are!

Slapshot! Well all of you who posted recently, actually. It was as I said it was - an even contest. As the following screenshot shows there was me - heavy - and a rook 262 (don't know what he was doing but he wasn't helping me) and four Bish up. It was the MOSS that got me. He was about 80mph faster than me. Of course, all four Bish just had to chase me down... I knew I had no chance given that the MOSS could catch me. But by dragging them all to the deck and away from the base, I knew there would be no-one around the base as my squaddies arrived back. I guess that's the fault of the pizza map too, huh?

And the fault of the pizza map that all four should chase me, like a junior school soccer match in which the whole team goes after the ball?

So... drop those BS claims that it was a milk run, or that the base was "undefended" or that the Bish "didn't know" that their base was under attack. For whatever reason, their defence of A23 dried up. I guess they were all simply pissed off that they couldn't just up an LA7 at another field two minutes away. I had to leave shortly afterwards so didn't see the final outcome...

... But to say it was a milkrun just because the defence decided to bugger off smacks of the Arsenal offside trap - calling the offence offside because the defence has decided to pull back abruptly.

tomato · « **Reply #58 on:** March 06, 2004, 05:34:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
There's a reason that even Tomato calls him "Ol' Shifty"

Actually, he has a rather long name, but you're right, part of if contains the phrase "smoke and mirrors".

:lol

Toad · « **Reply #59 on:** March 06, 2004, 09:51:41 AM »

You got shot down on the second sortie, correct? After the milkrun where you vulched 5?

Tomato, I'm sure it is quite a long name; things are so much more formal over there. After all, we usually just say "BS-er" but I'd guess it's "Bovine Excrement Slinging Specialist" over there, right?