Originally posted by midnight Target
Bottom line here folks...
Racism exists and it has hurt certain groups of people for no other reason than the color of their skin.
Yes, but...
1. racist come in every skin color themselves
2. it is a social issue, government has no right to interfere and decide who deserves help and on whose expense. It is unconstitutional to restrict someone in order to benefit another.
I have absolutely no problem with personal AA, where you and I decide to help some and not others, that is our constitutional right. I have a right to associate with whoever I please, dine with anyone I please, and discriminate as I please. As a matter of fact discrimination is very important. I discriminate based on a whole bunch of factors. No one has a right to be liked by me or to be invited to lunch with me, just like I don't have this right.
I have to problem with private institutions doing the same. I have a right to rent my property to whoever I please at any price I please without giving a reason or explanation. In my private business I have every right to hire whoever I please and again, same rules apply. If you take this right away from me, it is not my business anymore. And this is a direct violation of my constitutional rights.
In other words, I
do support any kind of AA directed towards or against anyone you please, for any reason whatsoever. In
your business you can hire black only, or homosexuals only, or whites only, whatever. It is your decision. But you have no right to tell me to do the same.
As soon as the government with its power comes in, we have a totally different situation. The problem is that thay have power to violate our constitutional rights and force us to do things or forbid us from doing them. It got to the point where they are controlling what we can or can not say. And this is absolutely unacceptable. Not because I don't like it, but because they have no right to do that.
Yes there is less of it than before, but it is still too prevalent to ignore. Sometimes medicine tastes bad.
I don't need any medicine, thank you. I did not harm anyone and I feel no guilt. I you do, please take all the medicine you want, but leave me out of it, thank you very much. I do not need to be "cured".
AA has existed for white people for hundreds of years.
yes, and that is why we have eliminated racist laws. AA supporters on the other hand, want to keep the racist laws, just reverse the target.
How many poorly qualified white men got into ...say...Yale just because their Daddy went there? [/B]
Is it a private institution? See above (any reason whatsoever) ...
MT, please do not take it as a personal attack.
You have black sons. I do not know whether there are adopted or perhaps your wife is black, but if it is the latter, why would you call them black? They are as white as they are black.
Again, I do not know whether you have white sons or not, but if you had a white son, would you teach your sons differently?
"you Bob have to work and study hard, but you Jim do not worry. You get extra 500 points"
Of course you would not. They are both your sons, they have exactly same rights and priviledges, they both grew up in the same environment and you love them as much. The only difference is that they have a different skin color.
But this is waht government sponsored (or should I say extorted) AA is all about. Skin color is all that counts.
It is wrong, it is immoral and it is unconstitutional. Your perhaps noble goal of social equality, does not change any of that.
We, both government and the public have to stop treating people as members of groups, but treat them as individuals with all their faults and assets instead.
Treating people a groups, leads to special group priviledges or to discrimination.
I believe that group treatment contributed to racial discrimination greatly both in a past and now.
BTW, there is not such thing like "social equality". There is only a side effect of how the people live their lives independently from each other.
Just like many other things, economy for example. The economy is not "declared" bad or good. It is what it is. It is a net result of people living their lives and making their decisions independently.
Same with "social equality", you can't just declare it into being by your wishes and government's edicts.
Every time the government (or activist people via the government) was trying to fix, or even worse, plan and "design" the economy or society, it turned out into a disaster. Just a matter of time.
"Social equality" has been tried many times...
