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Offline Westy MOL

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« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2001, 07:21:00 AM »
Bravo Seeker! fediddleing nail on the head. Bravo for syaing it so well.

--Westy

p.s.  go look at a topic called "109 vs Spit" in the WW2O "air combat" forumns and you can see how the "new" camp has been setup but with the same old booth and the same old rhetoric.

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« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2001, 07:22:00 AM »
Didn't Galland ask for a squadron of Spitfires during the Battle of Britain?

Throws the assumption that LW planes were superior between '39 and '42 right out the window, now don't it?
-SW

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« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2001, 07:28:00 AM »
 
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Didn't Galland ask for a squadron of Spitfires during the Battle of Britain?

Throws the assumption that LW planes were superior between '39 and '42 right out the window, now don't it?
-SW

He said he was joking, only to annoy Goering. In his words, he preferred German planes.

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« Reply #18 on: June 06, 2001, 07:58:00 AM »
 
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Tell me where I can read this then... kind of hard if I don't know where to find it.
-SW


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« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2001, 08:03:00 AM »
Camo I think you'll find one of the other online sims will have the opposite affect on flying-simmers rather than what most poeple thought.

Hmmm - if Galland wants 109s that fly like Spits I know just the place he can get some...  

 
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I'm not sure how big a role WW2OL plays in all the LW pilots leaving. It is true that for some of the historically minded players, WW2OL offers a "better" playing ground from a LW point of view.  But with a very limited planeset and emphasis on ground war, I'm not sure if the flight sim enthusiasts will find themselves at home there. In my opinion, Aces High has a lot more to offer in the air combat department as a whole.  That said, I'm sure that the competition will definately be a good thing and hopefully drive HTC to develop the early war aspects of the game even more enthusiastically.  

Best regards,

Camo  



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« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2001, 08:04:00 AM »
Personally, I think hazed, Glasses, and the others will likely be back.  
Everything they said pointed more to burnout than anything else.  I took off 2 months from AH after feeling the exact same way they did.
I don't see 5 or 6 pilots leaving being a big cause for concern.  HTC isn't gonna and shouldn't rework the game to entice them to come back.....it don't work that way.  The 5 or 6 who left are LW lovers?  So what?  This is an imperfect game;  it has flaws, but is still the BEST out there, IMO.
LW guns don't do the damage they "think" they should?  Get documentation to prove otherwise, or pick another ride.  It's really that simple.  Or, learn to live with it.
What I am seeing is some of the LW "icons", their "gods", have left and it can't be them, can it?  Someone has to take the blame, and it can't be the pilots themselves.
Hristo, you've still got one of the best LW sticks I know flying with you:  hblair more or less introduced me to AH, still awes me from time to time with what he can do in a 109.  Lean on him, utilize his skills.  He's a proven leader, as anyone who's taken on the Assassins can attest to.  The pucker factor goes way up anytime I see a 109 and I know he is online now that I am with the 56th FG, 'cause I know I might be taking on one of, if not the best pilots in the game.
Nope, 5 or 6 LW pilots leaving is not a tragedy.  If they love online flying as much as I think they do, they will be back, after they've taken a break for a while.  The timing might be unfortunate for those who were counting on them, but tragic, or an omen?  Not hardly.
 

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« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2001, 08:19:00 AM »
Err... btw... there are still 5 or 6 left in StSanta's squad, none of which have signed up either.

I accosted StSanta in the MA tonight and told him that if he didn't force his squaddies into registering for this thing that I would have to withdraw my support in his upcoming bid to be Supreme Ruler of the World. I'm sure neither he nor I would really want that to happen.      

If those in StSanta's squad register, the LW will be only a few short as of the latest roster.

And I think I've lined up a bunch more LW... We'll see.

Btw... lets all not take to bashing the LW so bad... It's everyone's 30 bucks.

The Rumble website and registration:
 http://modena.intergate.ca/personal/cwharton/sbm/rumble2001/index.html  

---edit----

Whoohoo two more Axis pilots signed up in the time it took me to write this.



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« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2001, 08:39:00 AM »
SeaWulfe:
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Tell me where I can read this then... kind of hard if I don't know where to find it.
-SW
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'...He (Goring) asked what were the requirements for our squadrons.  Molders asked for a series of ME-109s with more powerful engines.  The request was granted.  "And you?" Goring turned to me.  I did not hesitate long.  "I should like an outfit of Spitfires for my squadron."  After I had blurted this out, I received rather a shock.  It was not really meant that way.  Of course fundamentally I preferred our ME-109 to the Spitfire.  But I was unbelievably vexed at the lack of understanding and the stubborness with which the command gave us orders we could not execute--or only incompletely--as a result of many shortcomings for which we were not to blame.  Such brazen-faced impudence made even Goring speechless.  He stamped off, growling as he went.'

-from The First and The Last by Adolf Galland

Great book!

anRky
(didn't sound like a joke to me, more like sarcasm)

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« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »
 
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Tell me where I can read this then... kind of hard if I don't know where to find it.
-SW


Simple, read his book. Inbetween your post maybe you can look it up at Amazon.



Offline Pongo

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« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2001, 09:02:00 AM »
Good post FDski, A bit negative but I think there is some truth there. Camo too. Good post bud.
Wasnt the squad in question flying knight? Havent the knights been in a serios bucket for several weeks at least?
It takes it out of ya guys. Really. The game ceases to be fun and account deletions are the logical result. Not after an hour, not after a day or a week. But after several weeks when you cant run from it or do much about it. It takes a serios toll on the fun factor in the game.Im not saying its all that happend here but obviosly the LW has competitive planes in AH now. Not world beaters but competative.

Offline CptTrips

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« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2001, 09:03:00 AM »

I guess some just can't believe they could ever be shot down in their master-race-mobiles.  After all they are the product of precise German engineering and the finest slave labor concentration camps could provide.

Yawn...whiners come, whiners go....whiners come back with different handles.

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Toxic, psychotic, self-aggrandizing drama queens simply aren't worth me spending my time on.

Offline Yeager

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« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2001, 09:07:00 AM »
There is no reason why there cannot be a HA in AH.  Even if only populated by a dozen people, at least it would promote and satisfy those interested in role playing.

Y
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« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2001, 09:12:00 AM »
Thank you Anrky, that is what I was looking for.

Wingnut, being a LispWaffle has inherently made you ignorant of what I was asking. I didn't know where I could find it, so do not give me a smart bellybutton answer.
-SW

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« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2001, 09:20:00 AM »
I thought Galland asked for Spit's becuase Goreing wanted his Fighter Pilots to fly "close air support" for the bombers. Galland knew that the 109 was not meant for close air support. They need to be up above with a good alt advantage, that as we all know is desperatly needed by the 109 to survive a fight with Spit's. He was being a smart bellybutton to Goreing He luv'd the 109 IMO.

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« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2001, 09:36:00 AM »
The good news is now that wwiionline is public you may get a lot back, and soon.