Mother of killed soldier shouted down with "Four more years!"

[Muckmaw1]

Originally posted by Westy
Ahhh. the ole VOSS defense where the victim deserved what they got.  WTG !

Oh Come on, you can do better than that.

[Scootter]

Oh wow news, a mother is upset her son was killed.

 
I would hope any mother would be, heck I am saddened by the loss, but I could say that about all the troops killed in WW2.

 My Grandmother was very angry and hurt by the loss of her brother over Frankfurt in 44.

But her son must have felt different or he would not have been there.

Why must everything be about Politics?

So she went to a political rally with the intent of pushing her agenda by using her dead son as a tool (without his permission).

Do you think this is right??  

She was wrong IMO

[Wotan]

As for being a Rutgers grad and "knowing" what he was getting into? Since when did college mean one had common sense or street smarts. I repeat. He was fed a line of bull**** by the recruiter. Label him gulllible if anything.

Pure speculation on your part. Are you another lib that forgets how to read depending on the point you are trying to make?

She is emotionally unstable; anyone that needs to get dragged out of a place for acting out is irrational. She has pattern of behavior that demonstrates this. This wasn't her 1st "protest".

How many children I have is of no consequence to the discussion at hand. You are just trying to side track the discussion.

banana portrays those evil Repubs as mean bullies ganging up on a poor mother of a dead soldier. That is what this thread is about. No one there knew who she was. She was just some kook acting out.

I can post a link to story of a mother of a dead soldier being harassed by left wing nuts at a supposedly "remember the fallen rally" in Texas. According to that mother her son was called baby killer and she was yelled at and spit at by kooks. All she did was show up.

Regardless of why the guy volunteered he did. You can speculate on how gullible he was or how easy he bought the recruiters lies but as some one who recalls his enlistment I knew exactly what I was getting into. There were no surprises.

GWB didn't kill her son.

[Apache]

Originally posted by Westy
"I can speculate just like you can."

 No speculation here.  I'm refering to remarks made by the person closest to him, his mother. You're discrediting her interview and comments based on your unproffessinal evaluation of her state of mind in order to suit your pov.  That's the simple truth to it.

Out of curiosity Wotan, how many children do you have?




"If he was too ignorant to realize this, he would have been too stupid to spell his own name on the contract "


Ahhh. the ole VOSS defense where the victim deserved what they got.  WTG !

I think I can add a different view here. I have a son in the 10th Mtn. Div. He joined the army post 9/11. Did I try to talk him out of it? You bet your a** I did. He pretty much told me, "dad, I understand your point, but this is what I want to do. I am aware of the possible consequences, however, I'm going to do this."

I hope and pray nothing happens to him but I don't think I would lay blame on anyone other than myself for not trying harder to talk him out of it.

[SunTracker]

Is college education and the chance to see the world worth the risk of dieing in combat?  You bet it is.

[Westy]

No speculation here.   The guy enlisted to help with his bills and advance his potential future carreer in the CIA/FBI and his mother heard what was being dished to him by the recruiter.  They all bought it and just because you weren't hoodwinked by a recruiter doesn't make people who were less intellegent. Hence the "gullible" comment. I at least give the kid credit for trusting in people andnot being dumb. If that is speculation so be it. It's far less than you and the others here who try to literally make him out to be another Private Jessica.

And yes having children is important IMO as it's the vital ingrediant to understanding how a parent thinks and feels.  Otherwise a non-parents "expert" opinion is like that of the celibate priest who lectures others on what marriage and sex are al about.

 Nothing you've said has caused me to change my pov but in fact you've helped strengthened it.   Thank you.


"GWB didn't kill her son."

 Of course Bush didn't place the bomb in the road that killed him.

[Westy]

"I hope and pray nothing happens to him "

Me too Apache.  Sincerely I do.

[Thrawn]

The sympathy and understanding here is amazing.  

[Mini D]

Didn't this exact same thing happen to the mother of a fallen soldier that went to an anti-bush rally?  AH thread on it

I can't believe you guys are so screwed up that you can't see these threads for what they are.  I can't believe people are actually arguing the merrit of the news stories and condemning/praising people they know absolutely nothing about because of it.

[AKIron]

Chanting 4 more years isn't quite the same as telling a mother that her son was a baby killer and died for nothing.

[Westy]

"Chanting 4 more years isn't quite the same as telling a mother that her son ... died for nothing."

 IMO yes it is.  And both groups were rude, thoughtless and despicable. More so for the Dallas anti-war protest group who took advantage of a family in grief.


 As for  "was a baby killer " part that is pure b.s. and injected by you for reasons only you can say.  I looked at that article several times and no where did I find where anyone said to that mother her son was a baby killer.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Muckmaw1
Written by the same guy who wrote the book:

"Imperial Crusades: Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yugoslavia"

Yes, there's an unbiased source.

Elizabeth Weill-Greenberg is a guy?

[AKIron]

Originally posted by Westy
"Chanting 4 more years isn't quite the same as telling a mother that her son ... died for nothing."

 IMO yes it is.  And both groups were rude, thoughtless and despicable. More so for the Dallas anti-war protest group who took advantage of a family in grief.


 As for  "was a baby killer " part that is pure b.s. and injected by you for reasons only you can say.  I looked at that article several times and no where did I find where anyone said to that mother her son was a baby killer.

I did more research at the time that was posted. I may be wrong about what was said, will look it up again when I get back.

Guess I got my stories mixed up. Still, this sort of behavior is different than a crowd that may have chanted 4 more years whether there was someone shouting or not.

The family friend's message alleges Drake's mother was "harassed and yelled at, booed and hissed, told her son died for nothing."

[Gunslinger]

banana,

Compassion sure.  Does that mean we allow her to cause disorder at a public even and disrespect a public official that had nothing to do with her son's death.

You should see how Bush supporters are treated at liberal/socialis/communist "peace rallies"  http://www.protestwarrior.com  I've never seen anything like it in my life.  IMHO this woman is angry, a natural part of the greiving procsess, and she see's the president as an outlet for it.

Doing it at a public even is inexcusable no matter the circumstances.


As far as the statement you made earlier about president bush and some of the familys.....YOU ARE DEAD WRONG (no pun intended)

Right before the RNC convention Bush met with several family members of the fallen and had a prayer session with them.

He's also visited the wound more than a few times.....he's even taken time out of his schedule to go for a jog with a soldier who lost a leg in combat....called him every month asking him when he was ready.


You want to blame conservatives for this than fine.  By all means voice your biased flame bait.  If you want to have an honets discussion you have to be honest to begin with.

[Steve]

The sympathy and understanding here is amazing.

Well leftist whacko, you are either trolling or didn't read the entire thread, which is it?


Pssst Thrawn, Bush in an electoral landslide, get used to it.