Originally posted by DoKGonZo
All true enough ... but perking heaviy formations could be done now, today, whereas the proper solution could take "two weeks."
The use of formations on the deck is an abuse of their intent, though, and should be treated as such. Regardless of whether B26's or whatever actually flew missions at those altitudes, there was some intent to survive back then - so that makes the argument void as there is such intent in the MA. Were it isolated to a few dweebs who didn't know any better or just liked to cause trouble it'd be fine. But it has become the dominant application for level bombers in the MA.
-DoK
Well, I understand where you are coming from, but I have a few thoughts about the comments you made:
1) True, the perking could be done today, but could perking only formations be done? My understanding is that perkies apply to an individual plane so you would be paying perkies whether you took 1 or 3 bombers up. This might have the adverse effect of discouraging bomber use for any purpose (other than strat target bombing, but even then...). Just seems to me you would have to set the perkies pretty high to make them any sort of deterent to 'JABO' bombers, but doing so would really cut into people's willingness to use them at all...even correctly.
2) Whenever I go out on a sortie in AH, I intend to come back. Most people I fly with and around intend to come back. I am sure there are the UT/Quake gamer types that just up and die. However, I think a large number fo the AH mentality still have the "get back home" mentality.
3) Do we have any data to suggest that it isn't the dweeb element that repeatly uses Lanc and 17s to JABOs or pitch bomb? I mean, I know it happens, but exactly how many people do that on a regular basis? My own experience has been that I tend to see the same people doing that sort of thing over and over.
4) While low level wave after wave of bombers is annoying, it is incredibly effective in AH. If it had been this effective in WW2, it probably would have been used more often. Even so, it was used quite a bit. Point is, if they can mount the force needed to push on a base with wave after wave of bomber formation, then it is up to the otherside to defend, not cry "foul."
I do understand what you are saying, DoK, but let me say it again: it is not the use of bombers that it the problem...it is the
incorrect use of them that is the problem. If you remove people's ability to use them wrongly (divebombing, pitch bombing, etc), then you remove the problem. Perkies won't do it. If the problem is as wide spread as you say, then there are a lot of people that would probably be willing to burn perkies to do it. The solution has to cut much deeper than just making it cost. You have to do something that makes it impossible.
Bring the wave and wave. It sucks, but I am willing to deal with it.
HTC, change the code so bombs can't be dropped from the cockpit, while is a steep climb or dive (greater that 5 degrees, for example) and prevent bombs from releasing when pulling negative or 0 Gs. That would force level bombers to behave like level bombers.