Originally posted by lazs2
I think one reason for this is that Americans were raised with guns... they need less training than perhaps other countries. lazs
There are so many good quotes from you Laz, I barely know where to begin or which one to use as my new signature block.
I think you need to get out in the world a bit more. Not that long ago, Australia was riddled with guns. Still is for that matter. Those guns being mainly in the rural areas for landowners for a variety of legal reasons. When it comes to size comparisons, think on how much rural area, Australia consists of.
I myself, was raised around guns. I also owned 6 personal longarms before the weapons amnesty in this country kicked in.
The point of gun amnesty for the 50th time on this BBS, is to remove the potential threat of firearms being stolen from law abiding citizens and then being used unlawfully against the population.
Noone has or had any pre-concieved conceptions that it was going to utterly wipe out and remove guns completely. It is simply a control measure to reduce crime.
Again. Guns have not been removed completely. But now, unless you have a lawful reason to be in possession of one, you commit an unlawful act.
Recreational shooters belonging to registered clubs.
Those using them in the purpose of their employment, ie; Police, Security etc
and rural land owners can all still own guns.
The ownership of handguns however is a different kettle of fish.
1 reason in many of your previous arguements on this subject was self defence for Joe Schmoe, average citizen. I put it to you that if you were keeping your weapon lawfully and sensibly with your ammo seperated from your weapon, bolts out of longarms etc etc, you would be better off using a kitchen butter knife than your All American pearl crusted, john wayne engraved .45
I could take any random selection of their countries citizens and within a very short time turn them into safe gun handlers and assets to their countriesThats the problem Laz. The randomness. For you as a range manager or whatever it is you do, its a very profitable enterprise. No doubt you would do well. Theres plenty of nuffies in this country who would love to complete one of your courses, let alone how many of them must reside in yours.
Your arguement entirely avoids the human equation and thats the one which decides life and death, not the gun you hold in your hand. Your gun in every hand, just gives a crap decision, a better chance of happening.
I could rabbit on more but this post would be to long.
Mav.
I am not in doubt about your service time. I can assure you that noone is looking more forward to retiring than I. In the meantime tho, im happy enough to do what I do. Ive no complaints.
Again, I could rabbit on about the tactical considerations and distances on fire fights, (from the Police perspective) but it would deserve a completely seperate post and much of it, I would not discuss on this BBS either.
Laz,
At no point did I denigrate Mav or his career. Try to stay out of fantasy land and gathering the popular vote like an American election. Even you guys must be sick of that rubbish by now.
Les
Spook and his partner were in a confrontation with 130 men surrounding them. Spook had to fight for his life, the old fashioned way without a gun. He kicked their butts so good they left him alone, and the "australian rednecks"never messed with him again. It was 50 mate. It was a gun day, if I could have gotten to it. Another reminder that the god almighty gun doesnt help with them all.
Cheers.
Now I must go. Theres a gun nut out there somewhere that needs attitude adjustment. ta ta...
