A plea to the larger squads.......

[Trippy]

Originally posted by Stone



And whats the deal with killing FH? Don't people want to fight other planes? Is this not a flight simulator any more?


 

ok, ganging aside here, this game does have a strategic element here.  first not allowed to pork fuel, and now a call to have FH indestructable:confused: lol.

first having FH destroyed may actually cut down on the amount of vulching.  second, if a country is being hoarded you used to pork fuel, now have to kill troops, and if that doesnt help, knocking down FHs will.


people have to realize that the MA is not the DA, yes there are people trying to win the war not just flying around looking for the fairest, most equal fight.  i do not like the massive ganging that i see which is always at its worst during US primtime.  you might like H2H better, or even DA, though often i dont see many in the DA.  but the MA *beats dead horse* is full of 2 camps.  those who want to win the war, and those that dont care about the war.  HTC tries to balance these 2 camps but some will not be happy until one camp gets all that they want.

i might also suggest that ganging is not only created by people who want to win, but by people who dont care about the war but only want to fly in numbers hopefully getting easy kills.

is HT's game, like it or not your choice to play, make a suggestion but try to keep some perspective on things.   trippy

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Jackal1
This is not a " play my way or else" statement. I`m simply asking that the larger squads from ALL countries spread it out a little, give a little thought as to gameplay.
  Ahh hell.....in other words--------> grow a pair.

Jackal, what do you want as a result? Free vulch, capture for your squad or something else? I just do not understand, I normally deack the field, call for support, vulch it till I am sure they can do it without me,  then do it with other field. Fastest way to move stratwise.

Or it is not about strat and some other reason for this post?

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Fariz
Jackal, what do you want as a result? Free vulch, capture for your squad or something else? I just do not understand, I normally deack the field, call for support, vulch it till I am sure they can do it without me,  then do it with other field. Fastest way to move stratwise.

Or it is not about strat and some other reason for this post?

  Fariz somehow I get the feeling that you either didn`t read the post through or that I didn`t do a very good job at making my point.
  I am certainly aware of how you go about the game. We usualy in end up at the same places , working toward the same goals in the A.M. , U.S. central time. Like I said in an earlier post here, that`s when I think things go much more smoothly ingame for all involved.
  I`m not sure how much time you spend ingame during U.S. primetime.
  What I am referring to here is the approach that is being used by some of the multi-wing squads during their squad nights. IMHO, 2, 3 or more full dar bars at one single base kills gameplay for both teams in question, especialy when the mode of operation seems to be to flatten the field with the first initial run.
  Check out some of the multi-wing squad nights for yourself during U.S. primetime and I think you will see what is happening.

  Basicaly, once again, all I am doing is simply asking the multi-wing squads and the mission planners that play during those times to use a little discretion and to not use an overkill tactic that stops gameplay for all involved.
  I`m not asking for anything for my squad Fariz. I don`t have to , nor do I speak for them.

[ALF]

Originally posted by Stang
And this is quite possibly everything that is wrong with the game right now.  Those with the power to do something about gameplay have a responsibility to the community and to the good of the game to do so.  Being a squad CO and the leader of a large squad, you could very easily plan your ops to lessen the gameplay killing effects of the horde and actually at the same time increase your countries ability to take bases by spreading your forces out more effectively.  I mean, what could be better?  You guys could kill more toolsheds, take even more bases, gameplay would be better, the horde would be less of a problem and all would be better in the skies of AH.  Then again, it's your choice.

We all play the same game with the same rules.  Crying about how unfair it is when one side get organized is not only ignorant, it show an extreme lack of maturity.  Take some responsability for your own situation, and do something constructive.  People generally get very tired of hearing a constant whine of 'whoa is me....its not fair', all it does is show a lack of class and total derth of a desire to excel.

I am amazed that you can come up with a grand idea for others to play the game 'your way' and give all kinds of details and reasons its better....but I see nothing about you getting your team off its collective arse and follow a plan to offset the enemy.  It reminds me of the 15-20 year old dweebs I play on Mortal Kombat Online.  They moan and groan that I 'block too much' or I 'never kick' or 'always kick' (depends on my mood), they cant take responsability or accept the fact that they have more to learn.

So try learning how to defeat the hoard, or deal with it.


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PS: If some squads did spread it out I can hear the whines next week:

"We didnt have a singe front line base to take off from"

[Fariz]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Fariz somehow I get the feeling that you either didn`t read the post through or that I didn`t do a very good job at making my point.

My English is not that good, often I miss the point which is apparent to others. No offence here, was interested to clear out your point.

I join AH during US prime time sometimes, and I do not like what I see at the small maps. Same story with large maps in the Åuro time.

Hope that TOD will solve this problem for many of us. It will unload MA, and high numbers and squad will only make TOD more interesting. TOD is the main reason I am with AH still. Hope HTC is going for it, because it is the longest wait for any game or game version I have had in my life up to date.

[killnu]

first having FH destroyed may actually cut down on the amount of vulching

guess what else will cut down on the vulches?  upping at a different base   now there is a novel idea.

[Stang]

Originally posted by ALF
We all play the same game with the same rules.  Crying about how unfair it is when one side get organized is not only ignorant, it show an extreme lack of maturity.  Take some responsability for your own situation, and do something constructive.  People generally get very tired of hearing a constant whine of 'whoa is me....its not fair', all it does is show a lack of class and total derth of a desire to excel.

I am amazed that you can come up with a grand idea for others to play the game 'your way' and give all kinds of details and reasons its better....but I see nothing about you getting your team off its collective arse and follow a plan to offset the enemy.  It reminds me of the 15-20 year old dweebs I play on Mortal Kombat Online.  They moan and groan that I 'block too much' or I 'never kick' or 'always kick' (depends on my mood), they cant take responsability or accept the fact that they have more to learn.

So try learning how to defeat the hoard, or deal with it.


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PS: If some squads did spread it out I can hear the whines next week:

"We didnt have a singe front line base to take off from"

I sense from this post that you regularly hide in the horde and feel very threatened by any chance of it being countered.  Yet I don't know because frankly I have never seen you in the air, ever, so how would you know what I do in the game?

Complain?  Want others to fly "my way?"  Hell no, I love going into the big hordes and breaking out the seal club and putting you toolshed spankers right back into the tower.  Get a clue.  And if you don't believe me, ask anyone in game who knows me.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by Jackal1
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  What makes an attack a blast is the battle that it produces. If the attack is so large it can`t be defended against, no battle, no fun for either side.

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If the majority of players thought this way, there wouldn't be a problem.

But they don't.

If they don't have The Horde, they just pork everything so at least they don't lose bases. I rarely see the two smaller countries attack the biggest - it's usually the other way around.

You won't get the people in the MA to change their behavior by asking. Why should they? The game lets them "win" doing what they're doing.

[Thrawn]

Wow, one group of tards telling another group of tards how to play the game, this is orginal.  

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
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You won't get the people in the MA to change their behavior by asking.  [/B]

  OH I don`t know about that. It`s worked numerous times in the past. I`m not really concerned with the negativie replies in this thread. Considering who they are coming from it was expected, but they are some that are in positions to think about and act on the request that have a little more respect for the game and it`s players. They are reading the request as it was meant , simply a request. Nothing to lose by trying it.

[Knite]

Originally posted by Jackal1

  What I am asking for is the larger squads, with multiple wings, to use a little discretion on their squad nights. Just disperse missions, etc. to  numerous bases instead of everyone piling on the same bus and going to happy town for the carnival.

Hey Jackal =) Thanks for not ripping on my n00bness in a response. hehe.

There's no harm in asking at all. Maybe the best solution would be a little bit of what both you and I suggest? If the big squads "pace themselves" a little, and our own sides can work a little better together, that'd allow for some big arse furballs, with less "hopelessness" feeling.

[sullie363]

Originally posted by rshubert
As a duly appointed Squadron Commander and Horde Supervisor, I feel qualified to respond to this post.










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Shubie

CO, Birds of Prey 69th Peregrines
XO, Birds of Prey

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sullie

CO, Birds of Prey 363rd Raptors

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Knite
Hey Jackal =) Thanks for not ripping on my n00bness in a response. hehe.

There's no harm in asking at all. Maybe the best solution would be a little bit of what both you and I suggest? If the big squads "pace themselves" a little, and our own sides can work a little better together, that'd allow for some big arse furballs, with less "hopelessness" feeling.

 LOL yep that`s the idea, only I`m not requesting that they pace themselves so much as just to hit multiple bases instead of with the 2, 3 or more dar bars instead of everyone going to one single base. If some of them "paced" themselves anymore than they allready are they would pass out of pure boredom of their own making.
See directly above for reference.

[Howitzer]

Well honestly, I say let it alone.  There was nothing better than seeing a huge horde come in (obviously a mission) up a dweeb ride and go to intercept.  Shoot one down, get the kill message: you have killed so and so MAW or FB so and so, then go on squad channel and yell "FREEBIRDS AT 10!!!" and watch them all auger to up in a rally.  

This used to happen with the ltars as well.  One of us would be in a gv, happen upon an ltar, get a kill, and just know there are multitudes of them on their way in.  This just incites great fights.  Lately its been the JBs... had some great squad fights with them every now and again.  I say bigger hordes, and you all should change your names to something similar so I know what to look for  

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Howitzer
Well honestly, I say let it alone.  There was nothing better than seeing a huge horde come in (obviously a mission) up a dweeb ride and go to intercept.  Shoot one down, get the kill message: you have killed so and so MAW or FB so and so, then go on squad channel and yell "FREEBIRDS AT 10!!!" and watch them all auger to up in a rally.  

This used to happen with the ltars as well.  One of us would be in a gv, happen upon an ltar, get a kill, and just know there are multitudes of them on their way in.  This just incites great fights.  Lately its been the JBs... had some great squad fights with them every now and again.  I say bigger hordes, and you all should change your names to something similar so I know what to look for  

  Howdy Howie.
  Well I agree with what you are saying here , but we are talking apples and oranges.  I have nothing against missions . Sometimes they make for some great battles.
  I think if you will read the original post you will get my drift.
  If I am not mistaken the FBs have only one wing and I believe the same is true of the JBs. Correct me if I`m wrong. LTARs don`t even enter the picture here. The MAWs, as of late run some pretty good missions . They are a multi-wing squad. Only difference here is what I have seen lately from them is a tendency to be more strategic in the fact that they will hit multiple targets.
  What I am speaking of is the multi-wing squads that on squad nights, etc. that send 2, 3 or more dar bars to a single base. In other words overkill.
  Everyone on the opposing teams used to moan and groan about RJO. I was on the one of the opposing teams and what I saw was some awesome teamwork. They hit strategic targets at the same time instead of packing the bus with clowns all going to the same carnival at the same time. If our two other countries in the game knew what was coming and when and chose not to organize against it , then our bad.
  What I`m speaking of here basicaly can`t be defended against and ruins gameplay for all sides involved IMHO. Just a tad bit of discretion is all it would take.