how iraq was, is, and shall continue to be a total f - up

[Flit]

Originally posted by TheDudeDVant
How did he continue to look like he had them? He said he didnt have them.. He allowed inspection.. What more could he have done?

Wake up guy.. we invaded on false reasons.. the end..

ya know, i seem to remember as we were getting close to bagdad that SH had warned about "a line" that if crossed, would result in the dispersion of WMD.
 Just because we did'nt find any does'nt mean that HE (SH) did'nt think he had some.His generals had been lying to him for years about the capability of his armed forces.
 This leads me to believe that the intellegence gathered was wrong, not because "Bush Lied" or "The CIA Lied", but because the intellegence gathered was put out by a bunch of guys who lied because if they told the truth they would have 100 grams of c4 put in thier pocket and be attached to a car battery ( after watching the same happen to thier extended family).
  "He allowed inspection" hehe you gotta be kidding me, he gave the inspectors the run around for years.
 The only problem with the war in Iraq is the way the media reports it.
 As for afghanistan, hey , the first elections in the HISTORY of that country, after only 3 years?
 that ain't that bad

[Crumpp]

ol to win? perhaps.. America overthrew an elected government and then funded mercs that had the sole purpose of cleansing dissidents.. And why I must ask? O ya.. the domino theory..

You have a very warped sense of history.  Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the truth. I encourage you to get an education about US foreign policy.  You will find it very insightful.

http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/publications/elsalvador2/#BREAK

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/elsalvador2.htm

Crumpp

[Flit]

Originally posted by patrone


The true story about what happend in Fallujha will sooner or later be known to public. Then we will see how "Good" Saddam was in compare.


"RUN Forrrrrrest,...........RUN"

 Well, it sounds like you were there, why don't you enlighten us?

[TheDudeDVant]

Originally posted by Flit
ya know, i seem to remember as we were getting close to bagdad that SH had warned about "a line" that if crossed, would result in the dispersion of WMD.
 Just because we did'nt find any does'nt mean that HE (SH) did'nt think he had some.His generals had been lying to him for years about the capability of his armed forces.
 This leads me to believe that the intellegence gathered was wrong, not because "Bush Lied" or "The CIA Lied", but because the intellegence gathered was put out by a bunch of guys who lied because if they told the truth they would have 100 grams of c4 put in thier pocket and be attached to a car battery ( after watching the same happen to thier extended family).
  "He allowed inspection" hehe you gotta be kidding me, he gave the inspectors the run around for years.
 The only problem with the war in Iraq is the way the media reports it.
 As for afghanistan, hey , the first elections in the HISTORY of that country, after only 3 years?
 that ain't that bad

Unless you can find me a quote from SH, I believe you are remembering it wrong.. The line you are referring to was a mystical line produced by our government. The line represented the area that 'could' be attacked by WMDs with SH's availible technology had he had any WMDs..

The key question was offered I believe in this thread already.. Was he saving the WMD for the next invasion? IF he had them, why not use them?

[JB88]

did i miss anything while i was gone?

lol.

ok.  where was i...oh yes.

WHY IRAQ WAS, IS, AND SHALL CONTINUE TO BE A TOTAL MESS.

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[patrone]

Originally posted by Flit
Well, it sounds like you were there, why don't you enlighten us?

No, but the fact that no journalist been allowed enter there for nearly 3 months.
And the stories of the use of gas, napalm and even neutron bombs, by USA.
It really makes you wonder whats going on/went on.

Something that was surely needed to be covered up and that took long time. Or maybe USA got their butts kicked, big time?

[JB88]

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[NUKE]

Originally posted by JB88
did i miss anything while i was gone?


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you should make a bumper sticker of that and place it on your forhead.

[JB88]

data.  

in the latest fox news poll 56% of americans believe that GWB is mishandling the war as opposed to 42% who do not.

statistics from  one year ago

approve 52%
disapprove 40%

did we make a mistake in sending troops?

yes.  50%
no.  48%

as opposed to one year ago

yes.  23%
no. 75%

[JB88]

Originally posted by NUKE
you should make a bumper sticker of that and place it on your forhead.

its spelled forehead numbnuts.

[Flit]

Originally posted by patrone
No, but the fact that no journalist been allowed enter there for nearly 3 months.
And the stories of the use of gas, napalm and even neutron bombs, by USA.
It really makes you wonder whats going on/went on.

Something that was surely needed to be covered up and that took long time. Or maybe USA got their butts kicked, big time?

 ROFL Neutron Bomb?
As for no journalist allowed in for 3 months,where do you think all the fajulla video in coming from ?
 It really makes me wonder where you get your info

[JB88]

by these statistics, and by other similar polls, we can deduce that there is a growing distaste for the war in the general populous.  

here is why...

[JB88]

america was founded upon a tradition of fairness and equality.  though one can argue that we have not always lived by these standards, one can certainly say that we have been, historically, one of the better societies that has graced this marble with our presence.

we have invented, we have flown, we have gone to the moon and to mars.  we have fought for our brothers across oceans and we have righted many wrongs of inequity.

so what happened?...

[JB88]

when the terrorists attacked the united states on september 11th.  the whole world watched as two symbols of our ingenuity collapsed.  symbols.  

terrorists are symbolic.  they have no desire for territory, but a desire for the mind.

.....

[JB88]

when it happened.  the world was with us, united against a foe whose acts were so unconscionable and so foul that they literally ushered in a new age of warfare.

that is not to say that terrorism hadnt existed.  we even had a major civil terrorist attack in oklahoma city...but this one set the bar.

the perfect storm....