how iraq was, is, and shall continue to be a total f - up

[JB88]

now.

there are three things that i believe set americans and/or western democracies in general apart from 3rd world societies.

a.  we do not believe in kings.

b.  we believe in the universal right of law extended to all people.  (if only in theory in some unfortunate cases)

c.  free media and free speech.

by acting as the sole representative of al queda, as a spiritual leader and perceptual commander, osama bin laden essentially established himself as a king waging war on a foreign power.
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[JB88]

there are also basic principles by which we all try to follow.

one cannot commit a crime without being judged by rule of law.

one has certain liberties, inalienable as we say because we assume that these liberties should be a given...that they cannot be taken away.

one who gets to hot in the pants and out of control is going to get an arsewhooping by a FREE media.

the al queda does not follow this methodology.

niether does a typical iraqi.

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[JB88]

are ya with me so far?

[Creamo]

Stfu already.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Creamo
Stfu already.

no thanks.

door is ^ that way.

[JB88]

would anyone disagree with any of my assertions thus far?

[JB88]

Originally posted by JB88
Circumventing language filter

what is a circumventing language filter skuzzy?

[straffo]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Again, Where?

I've an answer but it's INdecent.

[JB88]

ok.  no reply from skuzzy.

ok.

as i have mentioned before, i was all for the war against terror/ i.e. - osama bin laden and afghanistan.  the world was too.

most of our european counterparts had experienced something within the range of terrorist activity and much of the world who was aligned even closely with us, i think, felt that we were well within our rights to do so.

we had an opportunity to focus the beam.

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[JB88]

america has been exceptional in its ability to export itself and its ideals without the need for foriegn imperialism.  we have been distributed, copied, settled and glorified.  

our television shows span the globe, our culture reaches into every country in ways that would be barely detectable in our own melting pot.  

our country has been the recognized leader for optimism and forward thinking since the end of ww2, unparrelled by any other.

(note.  i am not trying to be pompous, i am just outlining the responsibility that most americans seem to embody within themselves.)

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[JB88]

so i think that it is fair to say that as americans, we have had a responsibility as one country out of many on this globe
to put the good stuff to use.  to seperate the truth from the lie.  to continue the great experiment even through the dark times.

freedom.
liberty.
democracy.

[JB88]

and this is where we have and are failing.

[midnight Target]

Maybe one big post would be better.. unless of course you like talking to yourself.

[JB88]

we were attacked by militant muslims, none of which were from iraq.  yet, the drums of war could not be satisfied.

saddam hussein represented little threat in comparison to other countries in the world.  yet we chose to make the example of him.

we were wholly unable to build a coalition even remotely close to the one the GB1 did.

why?

almost everyone that i knew at the time thought that the WMD arguement was crap.  and most of my friends are conservatives.

almost all of them were skeptical of the reasoning behind the war.

yet...we were AFRAID....

[JB88]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Maybe one big post would be better.. unless of course you like talking to yourself.

you there.  i am writing stream of conscience.  its what is working best for me right now.  you dont have to listen.  
i wont be offended.

thanks.  : )