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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #90 on: February 20, 2005, 10:10:12 AM »
I no longer own any motorcycles, but I have owned four of them over the years.

My first bike was a 1969 BSA Victor 441 single. I bought in 1970 as a leftover. Finally sold it in 1981 after many years of fun. Typical Brit bike, leaked oil and the transmission needed rebuilding every 12,000 miles. But it always started on the second kick and the sound of a big single is like music.

Second bike was a 1976 Suzuki GT185 2 stroke twin. I purchased this for use down in GTMO. It was perfect for use on the base. After bringing it back to the States, it received the full "cafe" treatment. Overbored, ported, polished exhaust ports, chambers, smoothbore Mikunis, K&N filters, Dunlop K81s, rearsets and clip-on bars. Smallest bike I ever saw with a hydraulic front disk. After the rebuild it made 36 hp, and weighed about 180 pounds wet. Small, remarkably fast and agile. Performance was a bit better than the Yamaha RD250, which was the fastest street 250 of the day. Sold it for $700 in 1988 to a youngster who thought it was cool.....

Third bike was a 1977 Yamaha RD400D. With 44 hp stock, it was quicker than the Honda CB750. It remained stock for about 2 weeks. The motor was sent to a tuner shop in Jacksonville. When I got it back, it was making 72 hp. Competition clutch, dual cross drilled front disks. Cast alloy wheels anodized to match tank color. 1/4 fairing, rearsets, clip-ons, Smoothbore Mikunis, K&N filters, Reed valves tuned to push torque curve higher in rev band, Solo, racing type seat. Chambers tuned on dyno. Couldn't let it idle for 10 seconds without fouling plugs. You annoyed evryone within earshot because you had to constantly blip the throttle to keep the plugs clean while waiting at a light or in slow traffic. Years later, it was still beating the daylights out of the so-called superbikes. Sold in 1988 to a guy who wanted to go club racing on a small budget. Never heard from him again. I think that bike is responsible for my grey hair, scared the hell out me many times.

4th and last bike was a 1979 RD400F. Left largely stock, mods were limited to expansion chambers with rejetted Mikunis and K&N filters. This was a daily rider, with about 50 hp. Fast enough to be fun, without the hassle of being as high strung as my other RD400. Sold it in 1993 to a friend who rode it for a few years.

These days, there are a whole crop of high performance 600s that handle better than the RDs (and they were among the best of their time), are blinding fast and require far less tuning and maintenence. Tires are vastly better, and they're fully tricked out straight from the factory. Back in the 70s, if you wanted a "cafe racer", you pretty much had to build it yourself. Of course, these new bikes cost a fortune these days. My '77 RD400 cost me $895 new, with another $2,000 or so dollars in parts and labor to create what I wanted.

When the last bike was sold, we were looking to buy a minivan to haul around the kids. I was driving an SUV to work and my only sports machine was a well-worn and needy Shelby GLHS being slowly rebuilt in the garage.

A friend recently bought a Buell. I pulled out my ancient Bell Star helmet and I took it for a short ride. That old nagging urge began anew. I know Buell's repuation for building hand grenades, but this bike has all the moves and the sound of that Harley motor sure is sweet.... At 52, I'm a bit beyond the crest for a high performance sport bike. Nonetheless, if I can convince the wife that I won't get killed.... Naw, she thinks my WRX is a death machine.

My regards,

Widewing
« Last Edit: February 20, 2005, 10:17:14 AM by Widewing »
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« Reply #91 on: February 20, 2005, 10:20:53 AM »
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« Reply #92 on: February 20, 2005, 10:24:11 AM »
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Your hilarious Jackal.:p :)

I rode a cafe racer for awhile. Had to sell it when I went boat racing, not that it mattered much since I still got my speed fix.

Just fyi, a cafe racer is the grand daddy of your crotch rocket. :)


Thanks for clearing that up.... the cafe racer part. I probably wouldn`t have figured that out since I have wore out more tools on bikes than most folks will ever own. :D
I am a little concerned over the use of "Your" and  "crotch rocket" in a reply to  me. I was never able to get in touch with my feminine side enough to consider mounting one of the hideous things. ;)
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« Reply #93 on: February 20, 2005, 10:29:37 AM »
Here is the point... wide sorta skirts it but...

you guys are riding cookie cutter embarasing bikes... you didn't have anything to do with em except swipe your credit card through the machine at the store.   The parts on em are better than anything made 20 years ago and just assure that you are going faster when you fall off.   You can't use half the capabilities without breaking the law so... 90% of the time you are just looking silly and same old same old... the only way your bikes are fun is if they are going fast enough to kill you.

All bikes are dangerous..  I don't want to die on one of those embarassing neon cartoon bikes.   It would be humiliating... whenever I see a dead or maimed  rider in a pile of neon plastic parts I feel sorry for his embarassment.

I would rather ride an old panhead chopper for ten minutes than to be buzzing around the cages in the best sport bike made.   I would rather take one ride on a vincent or even a squarial or even a duccati than any hyper bike made.

If I wanted a "cafe" experiance I would rather ride an old 45" KR Harley... At least when I parked at the bar at the peak I could pick my bike out from all the neon lookallikes... Mine would be the one with people standing around it and probly the least impressive performer.

lazs

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« Reply #94 on: February 20, 2005, 10:42:45 AM »
Riding my first bike on weekends, a cheap 90,000km Honda dominator 650 single.
Will get an an aprilia tuono when I ditch this one in a year or so.


Lazs, using that logic, your guns should all be the amazonian wood tube poison dart variety, I mean, they'll just be TOO MUCH fun if they're superlative, right?  Such a thing as TOO MUCH fun?

and
"The trick is to have fun and not look like a monkey fornicating a football while you are doing it."

please... wtf cares what you look like.
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« Reply #95 on: February 20, 2005, 11:04:29 AM »
using my logic... one would shoot steel guns instead of plastic ones.   I believe the experiance is enhanced by appreciation of the machine.  

I do realize that nostalgia and appreceation is not for everyone and am glad.   I think that some are fooling themselves tho by saying that they would rather ride or shoot modern reliable equipment .

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« Reply #96 on: February 20, 2005, 11:16:42 AM »
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hey Grim,  I had a 595i for a day a few years back.  Decided the Triumph test rider must be a 6'8" gorilla with a concave bowl in his chest.

D'you find yours comfy?



Hey there Swoop!

Well I'm 5'10 and don't find a problem with it during normal riding. However, when the mood strikes to take her up to speeds where I'm required to lay down on the tank, I could use a concave chest which I don't happen to have...LOL  Since I'm getting too old to do that type of thing frequently these days, I have no problem dealing a with a little "discomfort" now and then. Other than that, I love the bloody thing and it's the best bike I've owned so far...

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« Reply #97 on: February 20, 2005, 11:21:48 AM »
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I would rather ride an old panhead chopper for ten minutes than to be buzzing around the cages in the best sport bike made.   I would rather take one ride on a vincent or even a squarial or even a duccati than any hyper bike made.
lazs


A fellow I work with rides a 1950's vintage panhead. He does a lot of customizing as a side business.

I always liked the BMW twins. I had a friend with a R75/6 model (late 1970s). Not fast, but smooth, comfortable and reliable like a swiss watch. I liked the low maintenance shaft drive too.

I recently went with my brother to look at BMWs. He drooled over the K1200 brochure (165hp for crisake!), but realism set in and he was more interested in the 2004 BMW R1150R in the showroom. Nice machine, much further refined version of the opposed twin. Looks like a great weekend rider. Most certainly not a sport bike. Being a 2004 leftover the dealer indicated that they would negotiate a price somewhat below $10k. He hasn't made a decision yet, but if he buys it, I want to take it for a ride. It's a very nice machine for a very reasonable price.

My regards,

Widewing
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« Reply #98 on: February 20, 2005, 11:24:37 AM »
Well call me silly fellas...

I appreciate motorcycles for what they are... AN ABSOLUTE HOOT TO RIDE! I've been riding for let's see here... 20 years now. I love old bikes, new bikes, dirt bikes, street bikes, sportbikes, cruisers...

I've owned most of the above, and each type of bike has provided me with immense enjoyment, albeit each in a different way. Kind of like having sex in different positions, it's hard to pick a favorite!

Grimmy

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« Reply #99 on: February 20, 2005, 11:27:31 AM »
Memory lane...

Circa '55 Cushman stepthrough scooter.
Suzuki 80
Yamaha 100
Honda 90.   Virtually indestructible.
1947 Indian Chief 80 inch flathead. (never ran, sold for $150)

1970 Norton Commando S  This was a smokin ride by the standards of the day.  Maintenance pig, Prince of Darkness electrics, but I loved it.  Something about a British vertical twin that blinds one to the mechanical deficiencies.  Right hand shift, up for first was an interesting change in the beginning.

1972 BMW R75/5.  Bought new in Germany, rode it for a year overseas, sold in LA for more than I paid for it.  I don't think that pencils out anymore.  Reliable but subject to an infrequent but scary high speed steering anomaly.  They lengthened the swing arm by about an inch the following model year to fix.

Royal Enfield (in a basket, never ran)

1969 Triumph Bonneville.  Rat chopper.  What was I thinking?  Amal Concentric carbs with slides that stuck at the top of the bores under hard acceleration.  I kept meaning to fix it but the fun of fumbling around for the cleverly concealed ignition switch under the seat with the throttle stuck on seemed somehow to increase the enjoyment in those days.  When going out on the town I used to paint it with a Krylon spray can.  If it was a special occasion I'd wash it first.  It was named "El Sano".

1982 Suzuki GS 850 G

Current ride: 1978 FLH Shovel with FXWG frontend.
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« Reply #100 on: February 20, 2005, 12:10:56 PM »
My point wasn't that. I meant to say that taste is arbitrary.

When I see cruisers, the only thing that irks me is the off James Bond villain disfunctionality, funky but not quite the tool I'd trust my bellybutton and brains to.

Idealy I'd ride this:
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« Reply #101 on: February 20, 2005, 12:30:15 PM »
yep... taste is arbitrary... that is an ugly bike tho by any standards.  If I wanted to play around in the dirt I would use an old gold star beezer or a maico or bulltaco.   I think I am gonna pick up an old 250 bull.   Some day I will build a Harley sportster dirt bike.

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« Reply #102 on: February 20, 2005, 01:01:21 PM »
couldn't care less about looks, except that of the lines i leave on the ground.

those tires aren't slick by mistake btw.
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« Reply #103 on: February 20, 2005, 05:43:11 PM »
:lol So now we are into the if it isn't old and a cruiser its S**t argument.

Thankfully I don't see too much of that you aren't a biker if you ride that kind of bike c**p over here any more. If you ride then you are one of us in my book whatever it is, the important thing is its a motorcycle. its a worldwide brotherhood that is too rare in other ways these days.

I've travelled all over Europe on mine and made many new freinds met many interesting people and had much fun. I've no time for the kind of divisive stuff. Two wheels fast four wheels last, as they say.

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« Reply #104 on: February 20, 2005, 07:25:30 PM »
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My point wasn't that. I meant to say that taste is arbitrary.

When I see cruisers, the only thing that irks me is the off James Bond villain disfunctionality, funky but not quite the tool I'd trust my bellybutton and brains to.

Idealy I'd ride this:


Supermoto's are AWESOME moot :).  Have you seen this?  Surprisingly it's a Moto-Guzzi: