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« Reply #60 on: April 08, 2005, 05:31:19 PM »
Of course you can but it aint big and flash and it doesn't shout "look at me!"

Personaly I think big vehicles "shout look at me ...... aint I dumb!"

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« Reply #61 on: April 08, 2005, 11:35:07 PM »
I agree to a point Skydancer. There is little need for an SUV for most of the people, in most places. They are more Egowagon than anything else. There is, however, a need for SUV's.

Not everyone lives in Metro, USA. Some live in rural areas and need that SUV to travel in all weather conditions. There also is no mass transit for most of those people to use for the daily commute to work.

It will take something as drastic as gas rationing to force the switch to more appropriate vehicles and mass transit use.
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« Reply #62 on: April 09, 2005, 12:15:28 AM »
He lives in a place were 650 miles will take you from one end of the island to the other (Aberdeen to Plymouth).

He lives in a place where one of our Ford Explorers would be one of the bigger 4wd vehicles.

He lives in a place with a lot more public transportation between towns.

He has NEVER loaded up five guys and five dogs with five shotguns and 7 days worth of clothing and food into one vehicle and driven 6 hours to go on a pheasant hunting trip.

Yet he knows all about whether or not anyone needs a large SUV.

He knows it all, just ask him.
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« Reply #63 on: April 09, 2005, 12:54:25 AM »
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Please explain. My bride is driving an '02 and it doesn't get near that mileage. She has the V8; is your's a 6?

What is the "amsoil treatment" exactly? Engine and trans?

K&N I know; did you happen to do it stage by stage and keep mpg records? Or did you do both at once? In other words, how much do you think the K&N alone is worth?

Overall, how much did you increase the mpg with these two changes? [/B]


Toad, I have the 4.0L and  I use 0W-30 Amsoil Oil.   If you have leaks, don't use it.  It's 0W allows WAY LESS friction.  

I only have a K&N panel filter.  I rarely "jack-rabbit" and go easy on the freeway.  I have been thinking of getting THE Filtercharger kit though and Cat-Back exhaust.

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« Reply #64 on: April 09, 2005, 04:21:01 AM »
So Toad, you have nothing as a nation to learn from others?

HMMMMM!

No I have not done those things. Neither Have I said that you should ban SUV's. What I am saying is that to use them as your everyday transport to and from the mall, work, etc is stupid. They are inefficient and are helping to make this whole planet go down the pan.

I'm not saying don't use them. I'm saying find better ways to power them, and only use them when they are neccesary.

That is all.

As an aside. I passed three V8 Range Rovers in traffic yesterday sitting still each with only one occupant. Two of who were obviously livid and late and blocked my bike (or attempted to ) from passing like it would make any difference to them.

I cruised past. Warm in my goretex, enjoying the ride and arrived at work relaxed and happy whereas they burnt wasted fuel, raised their bloodpressure by a couple of notches, stressed themselves at the start of the day, and for what? So they could have a big flash Range Rover that realy said look at me I'm a sad prat!

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« Reply #65 on: April 09, 2005, 05:32:53 AM »
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So Toad, you have nothing as a nation to learn from others?

HMMMMM!

No I have not done those things. Neither Have I said that you should ban SUV's. What I am saying is that to use them as your everyday transport to and from the mall, work, etc is stupid. They are inefficient and are helping to make this whole planet go down the pan.

I'm not saying don't use them. I'm saying find better ways to power them, and only use them when they are neccesary.

That is all.

As an aside. I passed three V8 Range Rovers in traffic yesterday sitting still each with only one occupant. Two of who were obviously livid and late and blocked my bike (or attempted to ) from passing like it would make any difference to them.

I cruised past. Warm in my goretex, enjoying the ride and arrived at work relaxed and happy whereas they burnt wasted fuel, raised their bloodpressure by a couple of notches, stressed themselves at the start of the day, and for what? So they could have a big flash Range Rover that realy said look at me I'm a sad prat!


1)Its ok if you cant afford a Range Rover or even the gas that goes in one. you dont have to be mad at those that do. Hater.

2)If your so happy why you worried about anyone else?

3)How many girls can you fit on that bike? 1? maybe two at the most? maybe thats your problem. Get you a ride that can fit a few ladies.

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« Reply #66 on: April 09, 2005, 08:03:51 AM »
A bit more news on the technology of hydrogen power and dangers of carrying hydrogen on board in a high-psi fuel tank:

Apparently there is a group making progress in pelletizing hydrogen as sodium hydride pellets, which release hydrogen in the presence of water.   The pellets exist at room temperature and normal atm pressure:

http://www.fuelcelltoday.com/FuelCellToday/FCTFiles/FCTArticleFiles/Article_394_Powerball-Zeus.pdf

Pretty good example of making progress by thinking outside the box, I say.

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« Reply #67 on: April 09, 2005, 10:06:41 AM »
dude... you are not thinking again... most "sport bikes" won't get 30 mpg with two people on em.   a lot of cars will get 30-40 mpg with 4 people in em.

even my lincoln town car gets 23 mpg with 5 or six people in it... you would really have to get puny to beat that kind of milage on any motorcycle.

Harleys get about 44 mpg... most sprot bikes less... even an old r75 beemer only gets about 45mpg (I know.. I have one) and they all get a whole lot less if ridden in a way that won't get you run over.

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« Reply #68 on: April 09, 2005, 10:21:41 AM »
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So Toad, you have nothing as a nation to learn from others?
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No, we can learn lots from others.

It's hard to learn from someone that has no clue what he's talking about.

Large vehicles have their uses. It'd be nice if everyone could have a garage full of vehicles that served particular needs. One could pick and choose as from a collection of shoes which to use each day according to the task at hand.

Unfortunately, most folks don't have that luxury. They choose the vehicle that is a compromise but still allows them to do the things that are important to them.

Your smug "bike" attitude further highlights your arrogance. It's a good solution for you so you promote it as THE solution.

We'd all love to see you come live in Minneapolis for a year and ride your bike throughout the winter.

There'd be a stupid prat, I think.
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« Reply #69 on: April 10, 2005, 03:57:34 PM »
No I'd use it as often as possible to keep my transport cost down and go to four when I absolutely needed to.

Which does not include every single day to and from work in the city.

Read a little more carefully Toad man. You might see I'm not quite so dumb. You have a tendency to selectively quote the bits that support your attack ( sorry argument )

No worries though.

By the way I don't hate realy. I rarely use that word as you may notice!

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« Reply #70 on: April 10, 2005, 05:00:03 PM »
Just a few small points:

for those of you who who believe that hydrogen cars would be too dangerous...  

1. Gasoline is tremendously volatile and vapors are extremely flammable and or explosive.  It is not a safe thing, and yet society accepts the risk.  Hydrogen can be contained with proper engineering.  The shuttle uses hydrogen successfully.

For those who think Hydrogen is the answer:

2. Hydrogen is not a source for power.  It is a storage medium.  For every Calorie of hydrogen 'burned' in a vehicle, a slightly larger amount of energy must be used in the hydrogen's production.  That energy comes from the present sources.  Hydrogen solves nothing if we do not produce it with alternate energy.
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« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2005, 07:40:16 AM »
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dude... you are not thinking again... most "sport bikes" won't get 30 mpg with two people on em.   a lot of cars will get 30-40 mpg with 4 people in em.

even my lincoln town car gets 23 mpg with 5 or six people in it... you would really have to get puny to beat that kind of milage on any motorcycle.

Harleys get about 44 mpg... most sprot bikes less... even an old r75 beemer only gets about 45mpg (I know.. I have one) and they all get a whole lot less if ridden in a way that won't get you run over.

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he said and I said single person transport.....

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« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2005, 08:09:29 AM »
single person transport?  again... who will ride the things and maintain em?   I know the only time I want to ride is when the weather is between 65 and 90 degrees out... I see these guys wearing enough gear to do a bio spill riding in the rain (maybe one for every hundred or two huindred cars) and they are flat misserable.  Most of em are rare if they get much more than a 500lb payload... the rider and some poor sucker who is having his/her life risked by the thoughtless rider... that is about it for "payload"  you can balance a bag of groceries or a sixpack on your lap on the way home I guess.   The lousy milage they get isn't near enough to make up for the maintenance and useless in most weather factor...  Not to mention the strain on our health care system... How much fuel does a life flight helicopter or ambulance burn?

conserve?  yeah... that's a great plan... let's put off a real solution by "conserving" so that we all suffer for longer.

use the crap up and let's get on with it.  you guys that are conserving... that is fine if it is just to save some money but you are roadblocks to progress.  

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« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2005, 08:37:30 AM »
You are a bit soft aren't you?;)

scared to ride in the rain?

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« Reply #74 on: April 11, 2005, 08:55:13 AM »
scared?  sheesh... I rode for 30 years year round on a Harley.   I bet I put more miles on in a year than you have in your career.   riding in the rain is misserable... your whole country is a misserable wet mess 90% of the time.   To equate any riding of mortorcycles with the word comfort is laughable.   the guy in the range rover was comfortble... He probly didn't like the traffic but he could say.. "at least I'm not that guy" when he seen you go by.

motorcycles are a toy..  spending 10 minutes suiting up for a 5 minute ride is laughable.   Putting on a sweat smelling helmet that blocks more sight and sound than the worst case of car with tinted windows is laughable.  

Motorcyles should be reserved for a nice helmetless ride on a nice day in the country or a day all suited up at the track or dirt.

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