Religious question for Christians

[Vulcan]

OK heres one for you:

Assuming there is a god, a christian one at that, should he live by his own principles/commands set down in the 10 commandments?

If so, how does his actions during the great flood and the smiting of sodom and the  one I can't spell reflect on this? Would Mary count as being a "coveted wife"?

I'm interested to hear the christian view on this.

[MrBill]

Wait please ... I have plenty of popcorn but I need to make a quick beer run.

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Vulcan
OK heres one for you:

Assuming there is a god, a christian one at that, should he live by his own principles/commands set down in the 10 commandments?

If so, how does his actions during the great flood and the smiting of sodom and the  one I can't spell reflect on this? Would Mary count as being a "coveted wife"?

I'm interested to hear the christian view on this.

God doesn't have to "live" by the ten commandments. The commandments were God's law for Isreal to live by in the Old testimate.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by NUKE
God doesn't have to "live" by the ten commandments. The commandments were God's law for Isreal to live by in the Old testimate.

Oh, so God is a hypocrit?  A "Do what I say, not what I do" kind of deity?



ack-ack

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Oh, so God is a hypocrit?  A "Do what I say, not what I do" kind of deity?



ack-ack

I don't think so, but how could I possibly know? Think about this though: If you do not accept Jesus as your savour, God will put you in hell. Hell is the true death. So in a sense, God will kill you if you reject him.

Every human has free will on earth, so it's up to each person to decide if they want to die.

I do know that the ten commandments were instructions by God, given to Moses, for the way the Israelites should live.

After Jesus, the Old testimate laws are no longer applicable. I'm no bible scholar like Seagoon though.

[Hawklore]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Oh, so God is a hypocrit?  A "Do what I say, not what I do" kind of deity?



ack-ack

Yep:)

[Vulcan]

Originally posted by NUKE
I don't think so, but how could I possibly know? Think about this though: If you do not accept Jesus as your savour, God will put you in hell. Hell is the true death. So in a sense, God will kill you if you reject him.

Every human has free will on earth, so it's up to each person to decide if they want to die.

I do know that the ten commandments were instructions by God, given to Moses, for the way the Israelites should live.

After Jesus, the Old testimate laws are no longer applicable. I'm no bible scholar like Seagoon though.

So the whole 10 commandments thing is phooey? We can sodomize, steal, and murder as much as we like and still go too heaven just as long as we accept Jesus?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Vulcan
So the whole 10 commandments thing is phooey? We can sodomize, steal, and murder as much as we like and still go too heaven just as long as we accept Jesus?

The 10 commandments were for Isreal, the old law.

God sent Jesus to die for our sins and abolished the old law. You can go to heaven if you accept Jesus as your savior. Jesus died for the sins of man, and we are forgiven if we accept Jesus. All of us sin, yet Jesus will forgive us. And no sin is any worse or less in God's eyes.

[Heiliger]

Originally posted by MrBill
Wait please ... I have plenty of popcorn but I need to make a quick beer run.

While you are out, can you grab me some Guinness?

should he live by his own principles/commands set down in the 10 commandments?

If so, how does his actions during the great flood and the smiting of sodom and the one I can't spell reflect on this?

The Law that God gave mankind through Moses, had consequences for sin.  Sodom, Gomorrah, and those punished through the flood were not innocent victims.

Would Mary count as being a "coveted wife"?

Huh?

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Vulcan
OK heres one for you:

Assuming there is a god, a christian one at that, should he live by his own principles/commands set down in the 10 commandments?

If so, how does his actions during the great flood and the smiting of sodom and the  one I can't spell reflect on this? Would Mary count as being a "coveted wife"?

I'm interested to hear the christian view on this.

Try better bait next time.

Karaya

[Heiliger]

Originally posted by Vulcan
So the whole 10 commandments thing is phooey? We can sodomize, steal, and murder as much as we like and still go too heaven just as long as we accept Jesus?

While Christ did pay for mankind's sin, why would you thank Him by willfully violating God's Law and willingly living a life of sin???  

"28For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. 29Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. 31Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law." (Romans 3)

God pleasing action is the fruit of Faith.

[GREENTENERAL]

Originally posted by NUKE
I don't think so, but how could I possibly know? Think about this though: If you do not accept Jesus as your savour, God will put you in hell. Hell is the true death. So in a sense, God will kill you if you reject him.

Every human has free will on earth, so it's up to each person to decide if they want to die.

I do know that the ten commandments were instructions by God, given to Moses, for the way the Israelites should live.

After Jesus, the Old testimate laws are no longer applicable. I'm no bible scholar like Seagoon though.

I'm no bible scholar, but I have read the bible, and I recall a little story called "the good Sameritan" and in this story Jesus illustrates that a good Christian is what a good Christian does, or is defined by action.  What I don't recall is the part where the Sumeritan burns in hell for not accepting some doctrine that was not part of his religion.  If my car breaks down, it is no longer a car.  If I fix it, it becomes a car again, as it funtions as one.  I beleive that their are many Bohdisatava, Muslim, Shintos, and others that are fine Christians.

[Heiliger]

Originally posted by GREENTENERAL
I'm no bible scholar, but I have read the bible, and I recall a little story called "the good Sameritan" and in this story Jesus illustrates that a good Christian is what a good Christian does, or is defined by action.  What I don't recall is the part where the Sumeritan burns in hell for not accepting some doctrine that was not part of his religion.  If my car breaks down, it is no longer a car.  If I fix it, it becomes a car again, as it funtions as one.  I beleive that their are many Bohdisatava, Muslim, Shintos, and others that are fine Christians.

"16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." (John 3)

[SuperDud]

EEEEEEK!!! I'm going to burn!:eek:

[GREENTENERAL]

Originally posted by Heiliger
"16For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." (John 3)

Yes, that is also in the bible.  So now it becomes a question of wheather the 2 points of contradiction are congruent with Christ's spiritual philosophy.  If what Christ said is true, then the other is a negation, but if the other is true, Christs philosophy becomes mute, which leads me to think that there has been alot of major mistranslations in the bible that may or may not have been for the intention of control.  I'm going with what fits the philosophy on this one, as it gives the teachings of Christ and his purpose the benifit of the doubt.  There is also another possibility, and that is that both are wrong or partially wrong.  In that case, there is no platform for debate.  If Christ's teachings become mute, there is no platform for Christianity, as the name of the religion implies an emphasis on him and what he said, and the philosophy that he lived by as the son of god.  These contradictions are endless and I would like to think that they are the product of the inferiority of the english language.

Contradictions in cannon and philosophy pose a problem that forces a choice.  For me, I'll go with philosophy