Just In Case Your Thinkin' About Buyin WWII Online

[CRASH]

IMO some of the cheer leaders (has potential and the like) are missin' the point.  This game is coded for handleing 1000's of people in an ongoing war, thats the whole idea behind it.  The code doesnt work.  Anytime you get near even a few other people the game completely bogs down. It simply doesn't work.  Can they re-write the game? Who knows, but for right now and IMO in the forseeable future it just doesn't work.  It's not a hardware issue, you could have a gig of ram and it wouldn't matter, the game is connect dependent and whatever code they're using to transfer info is deeply flawed for what they're trying to do seems to me.  
    Oh, and by the way, those servers may be "designed" for 1000 people but it aint happenin'.  I was in most of the day yesterday and there weren't many people on at all and it still sucked at what I'm sure was well under 100 people per server.  Couldn't find enemy to save ur life and as soon as you did screen freezes, fps's in the 1 frame every 5 second range if that.  
     What really confuses me is that 2 years ago they were claiming to have an open beta in 6 months or less and now 18 months later they're claiming they were forced to release when the game wasn't ready.  What's that all about?  I'm more of the opinion that after 2 years of trying they finally realized that it aint gonna work and now they're just trying to recupe some of their investment before they declare bankrupcy and move on with your money.

CRASH

[Westy MOL]

Kind of pathetic someone loves some game so much they start calling many people liars for reporting the problems they have.

 Max, go to the official web boards. Hurry. Waste no time. There's a whole bunch of 733t snipers who trash all complainers and they need you there because they are badly outnumbered. Hurry!!!!!  

 Westy

[Wilbus]

Crash, you obviously don't know a S*it about WW2OL and it's code nor do you know anything about the development, statements like this, especially your last, only shows how folish you are!

The game is designed to handle 1000+ players, and it DOES, it's the servers, however wich they are having problems with. They have sold something like 5000 copies of the game allready and that's way more then they thought, the servers will have a rough time a while untill they have fixed that.
As for the FPS problem, they are working on it, they know about it and they have statted that this IS their major goal in the near future, to improve it drasticly.

What kind of system do you have? I have bad FPS as well, about 4Fps woth players around.
I am on a 450Mhz  and 256Mb RAM. The REQUIRMENTS for tge game is 400Mhz and 128Mb ram + 16Mb graphic card. We all know that Requirements is ALLWAYS bellow what is actually playable.

As to why they released it ahead of time, when it wasn't finished, is because of their investors who forced them to release it. The development team didn't really want it.
If you have a good system, you would mostlikely enjoy it instead of coming with these stupid statements.

[Wanker]

I have to go along with Thrawn on this one. While I would like to support the rats by purchasing their game, it's my opinion that to do so before the code is stable enough to play on a decent machine is sending the wrong message to the whole software gaming industry. How many times I've been burned by the hype, only to find a half-baked, bug-ridden debacle in the box. Let's see...Red Baron 2 springs to mind....Outpost...B-17II Flying Fortress....Falcon 4.0.

When is it going to end? Name any other product that doesn't work right out of the box, and yet people buy it anyway and simply wait for it to work "someday". I work in software development, so I know how complex a piece of software can be. But still.... to ask the customer to pay for something that is not ready is just plain fraud in my eyes.

I wish the rats well, and I hope they get things straightened out. But until they do, not a dime of my money is going to go there.

[Fatty]

Wasn't finished, heh, that's putting it mildly, last night I was in a PT boat...ooops sorry, wrong game.  

Hrm, well I uninstalled WW2online, so I can't give reviews on the patch, but frankly I don't see anything in the graphics quality to excuse the system hog that it is.  Yes, it has ground objects (that are ugly and blocky).  I would hope it has ground objects, because the ground war is the closest thing they've come to actually completing.  But fly over one of those 3 building sections they call a town, and fly over a base here, and compare the graphics quality.  It's laughable.

Buy your copies, support them, pay your subscription based on the potential if you like.  If you can keep their heads above water for 9 months or more (the time I imaging it'll take to become somewhat finished), I'll happily pick myself up a new copy.

[Hajo]

I don't think I'd purchase a new automobile, the manufacturer telling me that  "in one year, we'll have you an engine, and 6 months after that, I'll send you the transmission, and oh by the way....those doors will close if you push them with a frontend loader  

[AKSWulfe]

You know what the REALLY funny thing about this whole ordeal is?

You guys are arguing the viability of alpha code and how much potential it has...

Dude! Cyrix had potential......... Where are they now?
-SW

[Mojack]

hmmm,

many ppl talking about the money factor,
well, if you stop playing AH for 1 1/2 month,
you have saved enuf money to buy WWIIonline and try it out  

The current state is like an open beta with an entry fee.
also, they stopped the clock on the 30-day free trial
(so maybe no fee this year yet,lol)

also I think, the most important thing is the
FUN vs. FRUST factor.
And this is different for different ppl.
So to rate it as "kick ass" or as "roadkill"
cant be done.
You can just say : I dont like it, or I have Fun, so I like/play it.
thats about it IMHO.

-Mojack

[AKSWulfe]

Originally posted by Mojack:

The current state is like an open beta with an entry fee.
also, they stopped the clock on the 30-day free trial
(so maybe no fee this year yet,lol)

I paid nothing for AH until it was in a complete form... because they had a free open beta... for the 2nd time in their developing career they (HTC) have shown smart business sense and excellent customer support. They take our suggestions, and they put in their own ideas... It's a good relationship.


Can you say the same thing about iEN or CRS???

HTC gave us a playable version that quickly became a very good front end when it went pay2play...
-SW

[sax]

I'd say any company that will actually listen to the customer, and respond in a positive way, is well worth $30 a month.

HTC, is giving us 100% of thier effort to supply a playable product, and still manage to make a buck.

No hidden agendas, no broken promises, just the "Little Train That Could" blowing out thje big guys with better product and service.

Sax

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by sax:
I'd say any company that will actually listen to the customer, and respond in a positive way, is well worth $30 a month.

HTC, is giving us 100% of thier effort to supply a playable product, and still manage to make a buck.

No hidden agendas, no broken promises, just the "Little Train That Could" blowing out thje big guys with better product and service.

Sax

Right on the mark, I had a log in prob in Beta, about 20 emails, 100 posts, and 4 weeks later, I actually got some help from an individual at CRS.

They can learn something from HTC.

[maik]

same here   ripsnort.

even though I don't like the tone of some of the statements. I think it's far from bein' ready.

maik

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: maik ]

[hazed-]

Can i just say this.
HTC got it right with their beat/alpha launch as far as i was concerned but you could argue that the final product HTC has in mind is way more complicated than it is at present.In effect we are playing a beta of 'that' final version and we have been paying $30 everymonth for it.I still think $30 is a high price to pay for any game on a monthly basis but AH PROVIDES most of what we want out of a multiplayer game.A stable server,excellent technical support and where i used to think htc was slow on feedback to customers over news etc i now realise they are in fact among the fastest.
I havent played WW2ol yet as its not released in the UK yet but I intend to buy it because of what its trying to do.To finally try to integrate 3 types of games in one simulation.Its the 'dream' of what Ive always wanted.Playing soldiers like we used to as kids was all about this!!!.I expect WW2ol to have MANY teething troubles,I agree they were woefully underprepared for this release but to be honest, anyone who says they expected this game to be perfect on release is a fool! Many warned of its unfinished nature, and if you really look back honestly, did you listen to them thinking they are objective or did you ignore them because 'YOU' loved the idea and therefore refused to beleive it could be flawed?
Im STILL dieing to buy it and ive read the horror stories and know its incomplete.This is my point, Im not being objective and im prepared to face hard times while its improved.

The only people I feel have a right to gripe are those that knew nothing of the game until they saw it on the shelves and bought it.They are the ones who are hardest done by not people like me who would buy it even though its obviously not running correctly.

Does anyone remember 'hidden and dangerous' ?
Now a buggier game you COULD NOT have bought, BUT WHAT A GAME!.Even after patches and reworking of my computer hardware the game consistantly crashed but it was the sort of game id always wanted so i put up with it.True, it should not have been released so quickly and more testing was needed but i still loved it.It all comes down to how much you love a games 'concept' as to how much toejam you'll put up with.

I dont think all these posts about fraud and rip offs help anyone.If like me you know the stories about a game but still intend to buy it, thats not fraud its stuipidity!!  

now send me a copy of the game   care of:

MR.handsomehunk
12 I'llbuyanycrap avenue
london UK

[Westy MOL]

"many ppl talking about the money factor, well, if you stop playing AH for 1 1/2 month,

 I don't hear many, if any, AH people complaining about the price. They may be offering thier opinion (very valid imo)about getting a worthy and working product for any amount of money.

 I'm a customer, not an investor. Buying this box for online play in the condition the game is in right now is tantamount to rolling the windows down while travelling on the turnpike  at 65mph and tossing two $20's out the window.
 
 I now count deeds and actual performance - not ambiguos promises. I won't help bankroll flights of fantasy at this point in their game. Been listening to the promises and hype for two years.
 Well, June 6th was judgement day. Now they're in "MMPOG Purgatory" and only solid, concrete improvements will save thier day. Improvements all around, software, lag, custoemr service etc etc. Some of the devout will break out the votive candles and invoke the Saints names to help save them.
  I'll watch from the wings. I wish them well but I'll keep my wallet closed for now.
 
 Although thier problems did make me aware of the hysterically low prices of memory these days and I bought some higher cas stuff to replace my older generic junk.  

 See? A silver lining to every cloud!  

  -Westy

[Mojack]

ha !
Duckwing mein Alter !
wo hast denn das game her ?!   *NEID*
hehe

errrr
sorry for that :=)

just wanted to say "sers" to Duckwing

-Mojack