Author Topic: Just In Case Your Thinkin' About Buyin WWII Online (Read 5227 times)

Yoj · « **Reply #30 on:** June 12, 2001, 04:21:00 PM »

Well - I bought it. I'm keeping it. It might not be playable for a while, but I don't have a monthly fee and don't expect to until its working. In the meantime I have AH for a great game that runs. Sometime I expect to have both, which is fine because they really are not the same kind of game anyway.

- Yoj

Ozark · « **Reply #31 on:** June 12, 2001, 04:42:00 PM »

I playing...err...testing WWIIOL today and started ROFL! I taxied my JU-87 out of the hangar and saw the handle of a pilot in the next hangar.
OK...who here flies with the handle "Aces High"?

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: Ozark ]

Scootter · « **Reply #32 on:** June 12, 2001, 04:57:00 PM »

So right Hazed

I also loved H&D and what bugs it had, I often hoped to see other versons of the game. But nothing, I wonder if the buggy release had anything to do with that. But you see several versions of half baked games, but then again they work.

As I have said before with me time is more important then the money and I dont have time if it don't work right.

just my $.02

OTR

CRASH · « **Reply #33 on:** June 12, 2001, 05:26:00 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Wilbus:
[QB]"Crash, you obviously don't know a S*it about WW2OL and it's code nor do you know anything about the development, statements like this, especially your last, only shows how folish you are!"

I know it don't work

"The game is designed to handle 1000+ players, and it DOES, it's the servers, however wich they are having problems with."

Yes, Yes, I know, it's the servers, number of attempted log-ins, buggy router code, internet traffic, sun spots, stages of the moon, extremely low tides off the coast of Quebec, ect. ect. ect. Like I said, I was in all day yesterday and they had well fewer than 100 people on per server and it still bogged down just as bad as when there were many more online. It's the code, not the servers. They've been lying to ya for two years, you ready to wake up yet?

"As to why they released it ahead of time, when it wasn't finished, is because of their investors who forced them to release it. The development team didn't really want it."

Two years ago they, the rats, announced it would be ready for open beta in 3 months and released in 6. That was two years ago and now they claim they were forced to release an unfinished product. Your kiddin' me, right?

"If you have a good system, you would mostlikely enjoy it instead of coming with these stupid statements."

Well, ya know, I have a pretty good system, runs AH and everything else I've played very well and if I could get more than .02 fps when around a few other people I'm sure I would enjoy it, but the fact is that people with over 1mhz processors and 256 to 512megs of ram are reporting the same problems leads a fool like me to believe it's got nothing to do with my having an inferior computer.

Call me crazy, but I'm not buying the chearleader rant anymore.

CRASH

hazed- · « **Reply #34 on:** June 12, 2001, 06:12:00 PM »

crash did you know nothing about WW2ol before you bought it? did you expect it to work online perfectly? did you expect them to have tested every conceivable setup and configeration of PC? to test it worked on every one?

well welcome to the real world.If you want a game that runs pefectly online dont buy new games until all the patches are out.

Id say 50% of the games i buy have required patches to work on my systems.
If you want in on the ground floor of the big releases expect to have compatability problems.
Did cornered rat test the system with 5000 beta testers?
How the hell could they?
They have stated the 30 day free trial is suspended.
Online time (admittedly if you can get on) is free whilst they iron it out so effectively they are using everyone as beta testers.
You dont want to wait? get a refund.There are consumer rights that clearly state you can get your money back, i dont care what they say about non returnables, that is a shop pollicy and has nothing to do with the law.
Stop moaning, get your money back or just wait.
Agreed it hasnt been a very good start for WW2ol but they have tripled their server capacity,posted news to tell you whats wrong and whats being done and you still claim they are trying to rip you off?

bah! take it back to the shop and go ballistic, get your money back and dont play it.

hmmm you WANT to play it dont you? you bought it because you HAD to have it didnt you? why dont you admit you switched off your brain and bought it anyway, same as im going to

Tomb · « **Reply #35 on:** June 12, 2001, 06:46:00 PM »

If i may chip in here,

i had a total and utter frustating 10 or so hours logging in and getting booted out of ww 2 online any way to cut a boring story short i upped my trusty P3 700 TNT2 to 256meg ram which despite what the box says is the real minimum and at the weekend they sorted the servers out...then i did the FAQ to optomise and get about 9-15 FPs when the action is heavy...not good enough for air combat but adquate for ground combat

so how is it now..

well i have stopped playing all the other online games i play since i have only one interest

how is the battle of france going...

not being a tanker before i am now...the subtle's of the terain have to be experianced to be believed..creeping slowly forward just enough to poke a gun barrel throught the leaves..watch the unsuspecting bad guys roll by....blam...immoblise him...blam..kill the gunner...blam blam and attempt to brew him up...the moment of fright at some one fires at you and you see the dirt fly or the clang of a richochet...the sheer terror of a hugh explosion near you which can only be an 88 firing at you..you cant see him but i know where reverse gear is...crunch...revs screaming we back out of sight (hopefully)

the joy of fighting for hours and i mean hours to take a bridge from the bad guys under heavy fire ..we get our infantry across and more and more tanks to form a bridge head and fan out they dive into cover in the buildings..dogfights over head..something flying plumets into the ground trailing smoke..we dont care since they have yet to learn to use it to effect the ground war because if they dont it counts for naught what the fighter jocks do..the war is lost or won on the ground not in the air (until they learn to affect the ground war with air power)..the fright of the new guys the first time they experiance night combat..tracer and gunfire every where...the toughest fighting as you just try and stay alive for daylight to come...yes its addictive and i cant wait to log on tommorow and see..do we still hold Huy (where i spent today helping capture)..has the german push to the south been stopped..will our counter attack in (censored) succeed tommorow when we log on..will we have to fight a desperate defense somewhere (had a few of those)...yes im addicted like no other game...lousy FPS daft load times ...it can only get better and all games will be this way...one day

aces high has come a long way since those early days and is still going somewhere. its not hard to see it is going a similer way (air/sea/land force combat)in fact i would say it was first to produce the goods online but a persistant world based on historical events of 1940 is the draw for me (i never did like mustang V mustang etc)...yes its flawed and with ww2online i have never seen anything so bad...or so good

tommorow we must assault the woods on high ground across open fields...we hope to do it before they get 88s deployed we must have the town so we can get the bridge..wish us luck we will need it all

Tomb
Allied army France 1940

hazed- · « **Reply #36 on:** June 12, 2001, 07:13:00 PM »

tomb STOP THAT immediately!! I want to play i want to play!!
<Lies on floor throwing arms and legs about in biggest tantrum you ever did see>

[ 06-12-2001: Message edited by: hazed- ]

CyranoAH · « **Reply #37 on:** June 12, 2001, 07:33:00 PM »

I'm with Tuomio here. I have the final version of Operation Flashpoint 1985 and it's inmersion in itself...

You actually feel the chaos of battle as a soldier, or the fear of a tanker of being surrounded by AT teams...

It may not be a Massive Multiplayer Game, but it sure is fun!!

Granted it doesn't have realistic flying, but if you want ground war, Operation Flashpoint is a present and serious rival for WW2Online (as it stands now).

Just my €.02

Daniel, aka Cyrano

CRASH · « **Reply #38 on:** June 12, 2001, 07:49:00 PM »

Of course I didnt expect it to work perfectly, but I did expect it work more than not. It's not a question of buggy software, it's a question of outright fraud. As far as I'm concerned this is still vaperware. They released a bunch of code that doesnt work, hell, Wilbus coulda done that, just ask him

Anyway, it aint the money at all, couldnt care less about that. Its about all the lieing and deception, it's so blatant. It didnt work two years ago, it dont work now and they just sold it to recupe their poorly spent investment by screwin us, and instead of outrage by much of the gaming community you got guys runnin' out to the drugstore for more k-y

What should we do? Well, we should send a message to these people and anyone else who's thinking about perpetrating the same fraud, we should all take our copies back, every last one of us. Is that gonna happen, nah, we're all sheep. We hold out for the hope that we didnt make a mistake and that we're really not gettin' screwed. Denial is easier than doing something about it.

CRASH

Quote

Originally posted by hazed-:
crash did you know nothing about WW2ol before you bought it? did you expect it to work online perfectly? did you expect them to have tested every conceivable setup and configeration of PC? to test it worked on every one?

well welcome to the real world.If you want a game that runs pefectly online dont buy new games until all the patches are out.

Id say 50% of the games i buy have required patches to work on my systems.
If you want in on the ground floor of the big releases expect to have compatability problems.
Did cornered rat test the system with 5000 beta testers?
How the hell could they?
They have stated the 30 day free trial is suspended.
Online time (admittedly if you can get on) is free whilst they iron it out so effectively they are using everyone as beta testers.
You dont want to wait? get a refund.There are consumer rights that clearly state you can get your money back, i dont care what they say about non returnables, that is a shop pollicy and has nothing to do with the law.
Stop moaning, get your money back or just wait.
Agreed it hasnt been a very good start for WW2ol but they have tripled their server capacity,posted news to tell you whats wrong and whats being done and you still claim they are trying to rip you off?

bah! take it back to the shop and go ballistic, get your money back and dont play it.

hmmm you WANT to play it dont you? you bought it because you HAD to have it didnt you? why dont you admit you switched off your brain and bought it anyway, same as im going to

gijeff · « **Reply #39 on:** June 12, 2001, 07:55:00 PM »

Salute Gents,

Some good informative posts on here gents...and some cheerleading...and some pooh poohing. I find the game quite good in realism on the ground, haven't been able to get into air combat yet. I also find that with my system...

Athlon 1.2 gig Thunderbird chip
Asus A7V-133 motherboard
Vodoo 5500 AGP 64mb 4X AGP card
256 mb of PC 133mhz ram.

I have to set my swapfile to 1000mb min and 1000mb maximum to prevent CTD upon spawn.
I also still have problems with an error that punts me out of the server more often than not. In the time since it's release I have had three or four significantly lengthly missions in it, other than that Crash To Desktop every time, after countless attempts.

I do keep trying because it is a good game when it works. The frustration factor is very high though. It is pretty impressive on the graphics end of things, dunno why guys are complaining about that. It is kinda gingerbread in the building department but, dude, individual roadwheels on each tank move when you drive em!

I agree the FPS issues are somewhat daunting, mine are particularly low considering the machine I am running the game on. I do know if you lower the res to 800X600X16 you don't lose much in visual quality but you gain double or better the fps over higher settings. Even with 256 mb of ram I am using a very large swapfile. I have done some analysis and have a beeper that goes off when the unused physical ram reaches a certain point, the game is using ALL THAT and a bag of chips. (the swapfile)

It has a long way to go, but I think if they get the network issues taken care of it will be impressive. I still ain't giving up my AH subscription.

Jeff Waite
aka GIJeff

Gadfly · « **Reply #40 on:** June 12, 2001, 10:55:00 PM »

"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears that this is true"

-James Branch Cabell

Kats · « **Reply #41 on:** June 13, 2001, 01:09:00 AM »

Crash, I don't see any reason to argue your opinion. But one thing I would like to mention, those number beside the arena's are percentages. So when you see 94%, that's not 94 people that's 94% of anywhere between 1000 and 1200 people per arena. I've been playing all week and the lowest I have seen is about 3000 people online - they are averaging about 5000 people on-line at any given time. Once they sort out their server issues, all the arenas will be combined to one 10,000 player arena.

Blunt o · « **Reply #42 on:** June 13, 2001, 01:16:00 AM »

I say give it a year for them to work out the problems and performance issues. As it is, my computer could "run" the game but it would be practically unplayable. I've heard complaints from so many people, there's no way I would buy it at this point.

Wilbus · « **Reply #43 on:** June 13, 2001, 06:59:00 AM »

You forget that that the terrain in WW2OL is over 1 million square kilometers, it's covered with tiwns, trees, bushes, roads, rivers etc all over it. THIS requires a good system, I agree that it requires a TOO good system, but they are working on that.

For those of you who played AH after the beta ended know it wasn't exactly a world wounder either.

vatiAH · « **Reply #44 on:** June 13, 2001, 08:17:00 AM »

GiJeff,

I have basicly the same system you have except I have a Geforce card not a voodoo5. I spent close to 500 bucks upgrading in the last week ( went from pent II 400 @ 533 to 1.2 ghz athlon) and I think I would cry like a little baby if I bought a game that I could only get frame rates in the low teens in!!! I think for now, I will keep from ruining my keyboard with all those tears and leave WWIIOL alone till it is ready. BTW, Are you still flying in AH? If not ..your postive attitude and great flying will be missed.

Vati