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« Reply #75 on: June 17, 2001, 08:57:00 AM »
Hmmm...RAM; didn't you say you had a copy of WW2OL on your hard-drive, but weren't going to reveal where it came from?

Hinting, in fact, it was a pirate copy or at least you were given access to the beta FTP.

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« Reply #76 on: June 17, 2001, 09:02:00 AM »
Cc Dowding, I downloaded a copy of the WWIIOL v0.63 beta just 3 days before the release of WWIIOL 1.0 in USA, and tested it offline extensively to know what to expect. And I understand that the 0.63 was a quite old version for that time. In fact you can say that I had a "playable demo" of WWIIOL  ;).

I dont think there is anything wrong or illegal in it. I just tested how was going to be the sim I was about to purchase.  I dont know who put the file there, I know who gave me the adress. I wont say none of both. The file is not any longer where it was anyway   :)

My WWIIOL Original copy arrived to my home last tuesday morning. It came trhu an importation online service here in spain wich purchases the items in USA, imports them with way reduced shipping costs, and then sends it to your door. Cheaper than Ebay and with no CC (payement done when box reaches your door)  :).

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« Reply #77 on: June 17, 2001, 09:51:00 AM »
Ram, AH is definately palatable and a literall a banquet in comparison. Since you found that you had to make a comparison.
 You might not like AH for some of the sauces and spices used but it's definately well prepared. Esentially it is a marketable, polished product. One that is now in the evolving stage. Not the learning to crawl and "we'll tackle walking and talking later - we promise! phase. Essentially, AH is far removed from being open, "Pay to Develop" Alpha like WW2O is right now. Nor is it still in the beta stage that WBIII has finally come to.

 Westy

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« Reply #78 on: June 17, 2001, 10:19:00 AM »
WWIIOL has its bugs but so does AH.
I took a Tempest up today in AH but I quit after one hour when I discoed. I was too bored to take off again... same old same old.
I've been playing WWIIOL five days now and got maybe 2 discoes in that time and one CTD. Not bad huh ?

Its not a quakeish game and I like it that way  :)

Game loads in 2,5min and re-spawning takes 80secs so no problem in there. Heh it prevents players to act like car-bombing dweebs in MA  :D

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« Reply #79 on: June 17, 2001, 11:17:00 AM »
Horsesh&t Staga.

 WW2O is "DeathMatch 1940". Only you have a choice of two troops, two trucks, two tanks and two planes. Literally.
 It's new but the novelty is wearing off for many already as I can see from reading thier boards.
 It's still spawn, kill or be killed, rinse, repeat. Oh and maybe get some landgrab in. Still have spoanw point vulchers, dogfithing dive bombers, C-Hog of a tank (Char), not start and folks are whining about being cannon fodder (troops).

 All for a minimum of $40 US - plus shipping? lol.

P.T. Barnum had a most apropo saying    ;)

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p.s.  it is almost comical how the same folks seem to come running every time any one of thier brethren end up in an exchange of words. Almost as if a guard dog percieves an attack on it's master.

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« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2001, 11:41:00 AM »
I just think it's a wonderful example of capitalism in action.

Isn't GREAT that folks have a choice?

Those who are/were so unhappy in AH can now try a game that offers WW2 combat. What could be better?

Those who like AH can keep on playing and enjoying it.

So, for those of you who have found greener pastures, I congratulate you and wish you well! Enjoy! Time is fleeting and life runs swiftly. Goodbye and Good Luck! May your new pastimes finally satisfy you!

For those of you remaining.... cyas up there! I enjoy playing the game with you.   ;)
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« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2001, 11:52:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Toad:
Isn't GREAT that folks have a choice?

Those who are/were so unhappy in AH can now try a game that offers WW2 combat. What could be better?

Those who like AH can keep on playing and enjoying it.

couldnt say it better toad  :)

westy, AH 1.0 a banquet compared with WWIIOL 1.11?. It was better but not THAT better. With my old system i got 15-18fps at its best in AH (I get 20-30 FPS in WWIIOL), and AH was only in its infancy with only a few planes available,and no vehicles at all. Of course it was a way more stable game than WWIIOL (80% of my exits from WWIIOL have been hard lockups or CTDs, but none of them before I had already had a bunch of fun).

As I say, I dont think there is such a difference. Of course, comparing AH 1.07 with WWIIOL 1.11 is orange to apples. AH is now in a way better state; lets see how is WWIIOL in 18 months counting from now  :).

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« Reply #82 on: June 18, 2001, 04:26:00 AM »
OK Westy, now you've really got me confused   :)

In THIS thread you say,

 
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I did not buy WW2O.

In fscott's topic 'WW2OL a whole new game for many ....' you say,

 
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Will have to try the 111 patch later. Seen alot of claims for big FPS improvements but most folks seeing that still have system specs much better than the recomended system.
I'll be impressed if the fix does anything for my PIII600

So, you got a warez copy or somethin', right?   ;)

Oh, and Westy

 
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You might not like AH for some of the sauces and spices used but it's definately well prepared. Esentially it is a marketable, polished product.

So why have there been approximately 84 posts in the 'Bug Report' forum since the start of this month?

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« Reply #83 on: June 18, 2001, 06:01:00 AM »
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[QB]Horsesh&t Staga.

 WW2O is "DeathMatch 1940". Only you have a choice of two troops, two trucks, two tanks and two planes. Literally.
 It's new but the novelty is wearing off for many already as I can see from reading thier boards.
 It's still spawn, kill or be killed, rinse, repeat. Oh and maybe get some landgrab in. Still have spoanw point vulchers, dogfithing dive bombers, C-Hog of a tank (Char), not start and folks are whining about being cannon fodder (troops).
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In AH you can only fly or drive vehicles that has quite funny drive model..
(vehicles that yaws back a little after turning?)
and of course those magnificent 4000 yards kills with 75L48 and not much cover to talk about. (just some hills and couple buildings that can be shot through)
spawn spawn spawn, furball furball furball..  AH is more that than WWII OL.

In WWII OL you can actually be sneaky commando.


okey.. that was just a pull against unfair comparison of WWII OL being more of a deathmatch than AH.

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« Reply #84 on: June 18, 2001, 06:22:00 AM »
I was talking about how I felt about WWIIOL and how WWIIOL works in my computer but Westy's opinion about it is horseshit ?

Guess he knows me and my 'puter better than I do...

Cheer up Westy, have a smile   :D

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« Reply #85 on: June 18, 2001, 06:56:00 AM »
All of you must be unhappy with the games you are playing.. whether it be AH, WW2Ol, WB, WBIII, etc...

Otherwise, would you really feel the need to come to the message board and spend days convincing us (yourself?) that your game is so much better "in your opinion" (yeah right, if I wanted your opinion, I already got it the previous 40 times you stated it)...

Well guys, I enjoy AH.. and I don't give a Rat's bellybutton if WW2Ol makes it or not cuz it's got a linky dink flight model with poor graphics to boot.. AH is getting some new features in DX8 beta this week that may bring some interesting terrain...
-SW

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« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2001, 07:23:00 AM »
Still paying customer here btw and yes, I would also see some new terrains and maybe couple things for gameplay too   ;)

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« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2001, 08:29:00 AM »
Jekyll, I did not buy WW2O. My brother loaded it on my PC, at my house, with his copy to try it out before he brought home for his own use.
 Hey! Heres more praise for WW2O:
 http://members.home.net/mefletcher/ww2onlinereview.html

 I feel so in the minority <sarcastic roll of the eyes>
 
 Next? I have posts in the beta bug forum for testing a DX8 version of AH. Testing which is free and at no expense to myslef. Unlike WW2O which makes players buy a $40 drink coaster which fails to have a huge amount of the features, vehicles and aircaft on the box label. Then said fans are forced to run to ChumpUSA to buy more RAMand bigger vid cards than is sanely needed only to enbd up playing unhapily at 12fps with a 1GHZ machine. Or they bring the game back for a refund. Which has occured un huge numbers.
 I've reported no bugs that I can recall this month let alone in a year in the bug forum but I have made comments and observations on other reports in that forumn.

 RAM, what is your old system? A Pent 166? Compare AH on your old system with WW2O and then compare the two on your new system. A pig, isjust that, a pig.  Dress it up, give it a girls name and spray some perfume on it. You may fool some guys but I and many, many others can still see it as a pig.
 
 Staga, "roadkill" is an expression and was used in regard to the point you were making, not your opinion. Which I just simply disagree with.

 And Fishu, whatever simplicity AH has in it's ground vehicles I could care less about as it's a side dish to the flying here. WW2O seems to have done the opposite as they modelled the GV's with more complexity but the aircraft part is a joke.  I'm sure you're enjoying that ever so realistic, no stalland no bleeding of "E" 109 fm.   ;)

  Westy

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« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2001, 08:36:00 AM »
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So why have there been approximately 84 posts in the 'Bug Report' forum since the start of this month?

It's because AH has bugs where WW2OL has huge fediddleing monstrous mistakes. I can live with bugs, but not with cardinal errors.

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« Reply #89 on: June 18, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »
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 RAM, what is your old system? A Pent 166? Compare AH on your old system with WW2O and then compare the two on your new system. A pig, isjust that, a pig

WWIIOL Is a big RAM hugger, no doubt about that. and the loading time is annoying as hell...3 minutes of load just to get the world view?...I dont know what they need those 3 minutes for, but ok.

The loading time to get into action is less than 1 minute, ranging in 30-45seconds. not bad at all.

Oh, BTW the computer I had when I signed up in AH was a PII 333Mhz, 128Mb RAM, Voodoo Banshee 16Mb, 4Gb Hard disc. Hardly a dinosaur if you ask me.

The best FR I was getting under 5000 feet was never over 20. And usually was ranging on the 10-15FPS . Near the clouds AH was simply unplayable. That changed to a best in 1.01 and 1.02. In 1.02 I was getting some 15-20pfs wich was a nice gain. In 1.03 (With the day-night, better clouds, smoke, etc) the situation went simply impossible and I changed my system.