Abortion and the Death Penalty

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Sandman
Absolutely not.

I don't think it's any of the government's business what a woman chooses to do with her body.

It is possible to be anti-abortion and pro-choice. One has to realize that it is a personal decision not a public one.

pro choice means that you want abortion to be legal. Anti abortion means that you are against it and do not want it practiced.

I don't see how one could be anti abortion, yet support abortion being legal.

[Gunslinger]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that litttle tiney detail that a deathrow inmate is usually a convicted murderer while an unborn baby's only crime is having fluffied up parents<----not his fault either.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
It's public when taxpayers are forced to pay for it because it's her "Constitutional right"

and what about the father's rights, isn't the fetus half his.....mad from half his genetic material?  sorry I'm not buying it that it's a woman's right to kill a baby born or un-born unless her life is at stake.

Do the taxpayers pay for all abortions?

As for the father's rights, he doesn't have any. It's yet another good reason to find a good woman.



One more time... I support your right to do whatever the hell you want with your own womb.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by NUKE

I don't see how one could be anti abortion, yet support abortion being legal.

It's easy when you don't believe that it's the government's place to make such decisions.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Sandman
Do the taxpayers pay for all abortions?

As for the father's rights, he doesn't have any. It's yet another good reason to find a good woman.

no taxpayers don't have to pay for all of them but IMHO we should have to pay for NONE of them.  The supreme court recently disagreed with my opinion.  FOr whatever reason jail time shouldn't interfere with a woman's right to choose.

But why shouldn't the father have rights.....it's half his.  The only thing the woman is doing is feeding it.  If this is an issue of choice I think if a woman is pregnant she allready made her choice......so did the guy for that matter.  If a woman has the right to choose why does the man not have the same equal right?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
If a woman has the right to choose why does the man not have the same equal right?

He's not the host.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Sandman
He's not the host.

so when I kick my wife out of my house, I am the "host" and she isn't entitled to anything because I am in possesion of it?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Sandman
It's easy when you don't believe that it's the government's place to make such decisions.

Well, the government (society) does make those decisions. Like prostitution, drug use and any number of things people are not allowed to do with their own bodies.

Sandy, what would you feel about abortion if it was conclusively proven that a human life could be defined at, say 10 weeks ?

And in the case of a pregnancy, there are two bodies, the woman's and the baby's.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by NUKE
Well, the government (society) does make those decisions. Like prostitution, drug use and any number of things people are not allowed to do with their own bodies.

Sandy, what would you feel about abortion if it was conclusively proven that a human life could be defined at, say 10 weeks ?

And in the case of a pregnancy, there are two bodies, the woman's and the baby's.

It would be tantamount to saying a woman has the right to kill her kids (at any age) if she has sole custody over them.

[Scherf]

Originally posted by Golfer
She still laid out the mat and said "Come In"

OK Golfer.

I deleted my last response to one of your posts on the basis of Bad Karma, but that stuff don't flush.

You were thinking logically the first time you did the nasty?

If so, you are a saint.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Scherf
OK Golfer.

I deleted my last response to one of your posts on the basis of Bad Karma, but that stuff don't flush.

You were thinking logically the first time you did the nasty?

If so, you are a saint.

So a kid at 16 can commit murder because he's not responsible for his own actions?

[RAIDER14]

my opinion on death penalty if they kill a A380 load of people let the killer die!!:furious

my opinion on abortion is what guy wants to pay child support:rofl

[Eagler]

this is where the dizzy liberals all fall down from the lefty circle talk

the facts are abortion is used as birth control for the lazy, stupid and the "oops" group (save the rape and incest numbers to justify allowing it to yourself) and is legal murder of an innocent life - for now

[Sandman]

Originally posted by NUKE

Sandy, what would you feel about abortion if it was conclusively proven that a human life could be defined at, say 10 weeks ?
 

I believe life begins at conception and I support a woman's right to choose.

[NUKE]

It's always amazing to me how the law defines a life in the case of abortion, as opposed to the killing a woman's fetus.

In one instance the law does not recognise the fetus as a life worth protecting, in the other instance, a person who kills a womans fetus can be charged with murder.

I can't think of anything more assinine.