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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2005, 10:04:29 PM »
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In one instance the law does not recognise the fetus as a life worth protecting, in the other instance, a person who kills a womans fetus can be charged with murder.
 


Again... it's the woman's right to choose. If she aborts (or kills) her fetus, it's legal. If you kill it, you have violated her right to choose and you'll be charged with murder.
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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2005, 10:05:06 PM »
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So a kid at 16 can commit murder because he's not responsible for his own actions?


Best imprison women for miscarriages then.
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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2005, 10:05:19 PM »
With the right ACLU lawyer and liberal judge a woman could argue that killing her children is just a really late term abortion......OR could justify it by saying she was denied her constitutional right because she was poor or in jail at the time.
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« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2005, 10:05:30 PM »
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I believe life begins at conception and I support a woman's right to choose.


So you don't think the human life inside the woman should be protected and that the woman should have the right to kill it? Do you put any age limit on the fetus for it to be killed?
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« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2005, 10:06:24 PM »
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Best imprison women for miscarriages then.


sure if their actions led to them....say smoking crack or drinking a 750 of J&B every day.
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« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2005, 10:07:36 PM »
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Again... it's the woman's right to choose. If she aborts (or kills) her fetus, it's legal. If you kill it, you have violated her right to choose and you'll be charged with murder.


So, you are saying that it should be legal for a woman to murder her fetus.

I thought murder was murder? Why is it murder in one case, yet not in the other? Why wouldn't a person who kills a woman's fetus just be charged with assault on the woman?
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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2005, 10:09:04 PM »
The right to choose belongs solely to the owner of the womb.

It's that simple.
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« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2005, 10:09:05 PM »
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I believe life begins at conception and I support a woman's right to choose.


so as long as that life has not taken a breath on his or her own, the mother can murder him/her but if some 20+ year old fetus kills someone, it is wrong to kill that animal??
 yes - liberal double speak
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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2005, 10:15:26 PM »
You'd be for trying 16 year-olds in adult court then?

Maybe 13 year-olds?
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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2005, 10:16:07 PM »
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The right to choose belongs solely to the owner of the womb.

It's that simple.


"right to choose" is just a sanitized way of saying "right to kill"
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« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2005, 10:16:57 PM »
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You'd be for trying 16 year-olds in adult court then?

Maybe 13 year-olds?


we already do.
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« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2005, 10:18:31 PM »
What, all the time, in all cases?
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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2005, 10:19:26 PM »
No, but it does happen based on the situation and the crime.
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« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2005, 10:22:26 PM »
Neat.

So, just to get back on track, we were all thinking logically the first time we did the nasty?

If so, we're all saints.
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« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2005, 10:24:33 PM »
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"right to choose" is just a sanitized way of saying "right to kill"


or not.


You see... the moment someone starts talking about legislating abortion rights away, they immediately start talking about exceptions and exclusions. If you truly believe that it is murder and that no woman has the right to choose an abortion,  you have to believe that aborting a fetus that resulted from rape or incest is equally murder.
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