Originally posted by DoctorYO
The war was lost @ Abu Gharib.. this is 4th generation warfare, we lost a long time ago when we started torturing the general populace with little regard to law or order... attempting to fight a 4th gen war thru 2nd generation means..
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=A+Warning+from+Clausewitz&btnG=Google+Search
Or if you study Sun Tzu, we lost before we started by not knowing our enemy, ( know thy enemy and thyself ) draggin the war out, (war must be quick), and finally dividing our resources for a second theatre before we had the manpower to do such.. (the latter being the exact opposite of traditional war doctrine for the last 3000 years..)*
(In the artillery they call it Fire and Adjust)
honorable mention goes to disbanding the Iraqi army..(use your enemies resources) blocking our so called allies out of reconstruction (france, gemany, russia, spain, even Britain etc..) hence alienating them. Use of WP in hypocritical fashion in Falluja, and getting caught for it.. (I dont know which is worse, I'd say getting caught..just like getting caught in torture sessions etc.. war is war, getting caught is incompetence)*
*(hundreds more but these are the biggies..)
"Yes its the democrats.. they lost the war.. "
History will say differently Yeager taking bets at 50 -1 odds...
throw down some coinage, ill take your money..
DoctorYo
Excellent points. It is good to see such criticism from a student of Clauswitz and Sun Tzu. I guess I missed the "here is the solution" part of your reply.
Here is something captured from the link provided:
That leads to point number two: if and when American forces capture Baghdad and take down Saddam Hussein, the real war will not end but begin. It will be fought in Iraq in part, as an array of non-state elements begin to fight America and each other. It will be fought in part in the rest of the Islamic world where the targets will not only be Americans but any local regime that is friendly to America. And, of course, it will be fought here in America, as the sons of Mohammed remind Americans that war is a two-way street
(Incorrect - this so called 4th generation war was begun on a much more recognized date...Ask any American when the war began...)
This kind of war, Fourth Generation war, is something American and other state armed forces do not know how to fight. It is not going to go well, and among the casualties are likely to be the pro-American governments in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. In short, an American victory over the state of Iraq (which is itself no sure thing) is more likely to lead to a strategic failure for America than to a strategic success.
(Actually it is going OK... Block off the media blitz and ask a Vet. Most people in Iraq want freedom. Most people want the old regimes gone. The forces in Iraq are challenged but have risen to the challenge. Those who would bring their attacks upon defenseless civilians have brought it to hardened soldiers. The US did turn a 4th generation war into a 2nd generation war (not entirely...not yet))
I guess there is always the possiblity that we can choose "inaction" because this might be a conflict that is centered in a place other than in the war zone. "The fourth generation war" was established long before the Iraq invasion. It has always been a 4th gnereation war. Turning it into a 2nd generation war is only a local part of the battle. The Iraq invasion is only part of the solution...It is not the final solution.
Already most of the document that you have linked to is incorrect.
