Why old women need to carry a gun

[SOB]

Originally posted by beet1e
curval - lazs is in one of his "la la la la - I don't want to hear this" moods. You could type a rational post 6 times or till you were blue in the face (whichever came first) and lazs would say something like "so what are you saying?" or "so you're saying that it's the fault of women or big government?"

I'm not wasting any more time - not today at least.

Wasting your time doing what?  Telling people in another country how they should legislate firearms in thier country?  You're right, you shouldn't waste any more of your time, as it's none of your business.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by beet1e


Jackal! You don't know what you're talking about!! I am not tied to this country. I can go and live in any of the other 24 EU member states without so much as filling in an application form. Two of my leading choices do not have monarchies, so I am not tied to a king or queen in any way. Just thought I'd point that out before you step in it once more.

  Sure you`re not Beet. You keep telling yourself that. Now go get some new kneepads.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Whatever you wish to think Jackal. I for one am _happy_ I don't need to own a firearm.  

That`s not the point that`s being discussed. A good try though. The point is the "right" to own one.

[MrCoffee]

If everyone carried a gun, soon as someone fired first, everyone else would start shooting.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by SOB
Wasting your time doing what?  Telling people in another country how they should legislate firearms in thier country?  You're right, you shouldn't waste any more of your time, as it's none of your business.

No SOB, wasting time explaining to Lazs about why the price of gas fluctuates according to the laws of supply and demand, rather than because of liberal women, girly men and big government.

Jackal - I'm sure your education covered British history. Too bad it didn't go beyond the 18th century!

[MrRiplEy[H]]

That`s not the point that`s being discussed. A good try though. The point is the "right" to own one.

That depends who you ask from. According to lazs for example it's 'right to own an unregistered weapon'. The right to own one has nothing to do with the conspiracy buffs crying about registration.

Even though our constitution does not point out the specific right I could get one any time I wished to do so. So far my uncles collection of handguns have sufficed for me - we go out shooting together when I feel like shooting stuff.

I personally have better things to invest in. I could get a Geforce7800GTX for the price of a Beretta. AH is more fun for me than shooting, at least for now.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by Curval
Yes it's possible.  Is it not also "possible" that the witness could have killed the granny instead of a dog by mistake?

But if yet another guy pulled out his Sig and squeezed off a few, he could have killed the dogs and the guy who shot Granny: problem solved.

[scspook]

Originally posted by lazs2
lots of choices eh beet?  all the same.   Riding a mower in tiny little limeyland is not the same thing as anything in Texas.

I have shot about a dozen dogs in my life... they all react differently..

this is farm and ranch country.. the city boys with lawn mowing services move out here and let their big dogs run free... the dogs pack up and attack livestock and.... people.  

There was this group of three large dogs that had been attacking my guys and if you made it  back to your truck they would hit the windows growling and snapping and chase the truck.

I got the 44 mag 4" and when they came the first one faced me and growled and the other two flanked out on each side.... like they would a mother sheep or cow.

The first round took the lead dog high on the back and I seen the round hit the dirt behind him... he spun around and kicked a bit...  the other two stopped but started growling and barking... the next round cought the dog on my left (closest) in the shoulder and he spun and bit at himself before he died.. the other dog backed up 20' or so and growled then ran..  next shot missed  and last shot took him somewhere in the lower body.   he spun and bit at the wound then got in the brush and under a fence....

Hope he made it home to his owner..

The owner got another big dog that I took with one shot to the head about a month latter.  somehow.... That 44 seemed a lot more comforting and reliable than getting a can of spocks doggy perfume.

I would like to see at least 10% of the population have concealed carry permits...  seems to lower crime.

lazs

Hmmm. Im all for shooting an attacking animal, dog or otherwise. Ive done it myself. But you dont need to arm the blue rinse brigade when their mowing their lawns either.  The truth is she probably would have shot herself or her saviour and theres nothing like a wounded howling writhing human being to turn a good game for the dog to an even better one.

I observe you used your .44 Dirty Harry and left the 3rd dog to crawl off into the scrub?  Thats a little redneck even for you isnt it?  Ive never left an animal suffer, vicious or otherwise. If your going to put one in it, a decent human being especially one who talks like the great white hunter, would finish the job eh?

[lazs2]

beet... you claim that the solution to gas shortages is to put a punitive fine (tax) on gas "guzzlers" at the time of purchase and give this money to..... ta da... the government to make the government stronger with more tax...

you have been a socialist for so long that you don't even see it anymore... you only see that you are less of a commie than the fellows around you.

spock... you are again revealing your thinking.... you have shot wild animals but feel that you are "special"  your neighbors and fellow men are not allowed to own guns if you are in charge.   As for letting the dog get away and suffer?  if you had seen what dog packs do to livestock..sheep running with their guts hanging out... calves mutilated and left to die... udders ripped out etc...  you mioght think that wounding the dog so that it made it back to the owners home was a good idea too.

In my opinion... you are problyu the last person in australia that I would want to see own a gun.. you are pompous and self centered and an elitist with a highly visible contempt for your fellow man.

ripley... I don't believe in regestration because historicaly it has led to confiscation..  We have seen many example of this..  here, in NJ and in say frisco now... those who own regestered guns that were formerly legal... are now in possession of illegal guns (illegal only in those little areas) that have the owners name and address all sitting in a file somewhere.  

lazs

[Curval]

Originally posted by lazs2
you are pompous and self centered and an elitist with a highly visible contempt for your fellow man.

lol...this from a guy who keeps jigging his stats along racial lines.

[lazs2]

jigging stats along racial lines?  52% of the homicides in America are commited by blacks.... of the solved or known ones... if you used the same percentages (52%) for unsloved ones then it would be a huge number.  I did not put out these stats the DOJ did... call them racists if you would...  It is probly more racist to ignore a stat because of race than to do as I did.

latter... nashwan tells us that even with 2% blacks in england that blacks commit a lot of it's murders... he has no stats just a few examples.   It would seem tho that he is saying that blacks everywhere are murderous.... far from what I was saying... he implies that poor people and blacks everywhere are murderous... I only say that a portion of our black population commits most of the murders in our country.

I do not propose that all blacks or... anyone be disarmed because of this tho.

dowding says that I use new math...  I say there is not much difference bettween 1.7 per hundred thou and 3 per hundred thou... he says twice as many... ok... but it is as I say... insignificant..

like saying two drops added to a full bathtub is twice as much water added...  true, but... insignificant.

a .000017 chance of being murdered compared to a .000030 chance.... insignificant..

lazs

[Curval]

If I get shot in America by a black man or by a white man...it is still gonna hurt alot and I'm still getting shot in America.

[beet1e]

Originally posted by lazs2
beet... you claim that the solution to gas shortages is to put a punitive fine (tax) on gas "guzzlers" at the time of purchase and give this money to..... ta da... the government to make the government stronger with more tax...

But the US has lots of taxes - income tax, sales tax etc. You're saying these are socialist measures. Does this make the US a socialist country?

[scspook]

Originally posted by lazs2
In my opinion... you are problyu the last person in australia that I would want to see own a gun.. you are pompous and self centered and an elitist with a highly visible contempt for your fellow man.

 

lazs

Not all of my fellow man Laz. Just those who I suspect buried kittens in the ground up to the necks as a child and used them for lawnmower practise.  The kind of guy who leaves a wounded animal skulk off into the bush to die because it makes him feel manly when he holds a gun in his hand and naked, scared and vunerable when he doesnt.

[lazs2]

wow three UKers don't like me in a row... what a shock

curval.. blacks here murder 96% of the time... other blacks...you would be relatively safe from them if you were white.

beetle... you are the one calling for a tax.   you are calling for a socialist solution.  We certainly do have taxes on all the things you say but they are less than yours and we certainly would never put up with the kind of gas tax you have or voluteer for a punitive tax.

spock... I believe that you are insane.  you feel that you for some reason can be trusted to carry a gun and to kill but that your fellow man is too idiotic and dangerous... I have asked you before.. with your paranoia... how do you get around?  certainly you must fear your murderous fellow man will run you down while you walk the streets?  How do you stand driving knowing those untrustworthy fellow aussies won't just go crazy and cross the double yellow to kill you with 2 tons of car at over 70 mph?

as for the dogs in question... their suffering or lack thereof doesn't matter to me one way or the other... if they do happen to drag themselves off tho... I simply hoped that they make it to their owners house to die... preferably under it in the heat of the summer.

and... I don't have anything against kittens.  never have.

lazs