Author Topic: Perking the TA152 (Read 4020 times)

Vortex · « **Reply #75 on:** December 05, 2005, 01:07:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
I know I'm a little slow, but I just don't get it.

Why not unperk em all. Once the initial thrill wore off, I kinda doubt it's gonna be 262 wars all over.

Oooh, I don't know about that. I think you'd see a lot more 262's buzzing around than is healthy for the game.

Krusty · « **Reply #76 on:** December 05, 2005, 01:14:29 PM »

Also, late in the war the Ta152 got many Soviet kills. I believe one pilot (have forgotten his name, but I posted it before) ran into 4 Yaks or Las (can't remember which ) when flying alone and shot down 3 or all 4 of them. I posted the specifics previously but can't recall from memory the details.

The Ta152 was no slouch, especially in turn fights. Hell it's got a MUCH larger wing area than the Dora, and much more power, to boot! It should be able to turn much tighter (and the Dora was said to have turned tighter than all the 190As before it).

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #77 on:** December 05, 2005, 01:24:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
... The Ta152 was no slouch, especially in turn fights. Hell it's got a MUCH larger wing area than the Dora ...

... until you dive the Ta.

Krusty · « **Reply #78 on:** December 05, 2005, 02:02:47 PM »

Dok, I came across a lower dora heading the opposite way I was. I was expecting it to be higher so I was 12k at least, he was more like 6k. He went past one way so I rolled and split Sed onto his tail, and only throttling back once or twice to prevent over speeding I caught up with him and shot at him at long range with MG151/20s (to make him break)... Well, HE pulled up so hard in fear that he ripped both his wings off and plowed in, and I got the kill...

LOL I still had *my* wings on

I was going 500+ too

EDIT: I was in a 152, in case ya didn't guess.

Wilbus · « **Reply #79 on:** December 05, 2005, 02:15:11 PM »

Ta 152 doesn't lose its wings due to speed. It loses them due to G forces.

You can dive it vertical with full throttle from 50k without losing wings, just as you can with almost any other plane (unless it has changed).

Krusty · « **Reply #80 on:** December 05, 2005, 02:16:38 PM »

I think that if you pass a certain speed they will rip off, but it's a very high speed.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #81 on:** December 05, 2005, 02:31:08 PM »

Yeah ... just the threshhold for wing rip seems pretty thin for the Ta as I recall.

Krusty · « **Reply #82 on:** December 05, 2005, 02:36:32 PM »

Consider this, however... I've never ripped my TA152 wings off. Not even in a 15k dive to the deck. I *HAVE* ripped my 190F8 wings off in a dive from 10k-2k (release bombs and pull up steady but firmly). Go figure.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #83 on:** December 05, 2005, 02:54:04 PM »

My only experience with the 152 has been offline. What I recall was going up to 2500, popping drones, and then diving back to the field to check the dive performace. When I went for a break-turn for landing off came a wing.

If the plane wasn't such a barge I'd probably use it to hunt the bombers that live above 15K.

Krusty · « **Reply #84 on:** December 05, 2005, 03:29:26 PM »

It's not so good for that either. Even if you can get to the bombers it sucks when you unload all your 30mm with no damage (and this happens a LOT lately) and then get shot to heck with only a few pings. It seems to lose oil on most first hits.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #85 on:** December 05, 2005, 04:09:51 PM »

Yeah ... hunting bombers probably isn't what you wanna use a perk plane for anyway. Maybe a C-Hog.

Anyway ... the price ain't the problem, as has been stated, its that the performance as modeled ain't worth it.

AKFokerFoder+ · « **Reply #86 on:** December 05, 2005, 04:26:49 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo

Anyway ... the price ain't the problem, as has been stated, its that the performance as modeled ain't worth it.

Very well stated.

I appreciate all of the great posts about the 152’s performance in real life.

I think it is generally understood that the Ta152 in WW2 was a monster. A very exceptional airplane that could survive and kill even in the situation where the enemy had overwhelming odds and numbers.

But this isn’t the Ta152 modeled in AH2. Ours is a dog compared to other aircraft in the game. Not only is it not worth a perk price the ENY should be about 10.

If HT changes the FM, then the perk may be justified.

Putting whipped cream on a cow pie doesn’t turn it into a pie, anymore than putting a perk price on the AH2 Ta152 turns it into a perk ride.

Wilbus · « **Reply #87 on:** December 05, 2005, 05:26:06 PM »

Most people simply wouldn't fly it if it was unperked either.

Hell, I've got more then 7000 fighter perks and I get enough each sortie to go around for both 1 and 2 TA's most of the time.

I can afford to lose Ta152's the way I lose other planes for months and years without actually earning any more perks.

Simple fact is the plane sucks, and it sucks ALOT.

Any plane ranging from 1941 and forward will stand a better chance of surviving and killing in the Arena. A 109F4 is far more potent than that is.

I had some fights in the Ta 152 a long way back, the guy was pissed off because I refused to dance with his "sucky" 1943 ride (P47 D11). Hell, I could hardly outclimb him let alone outturn him.

Howitzer · « **Reply #88 on:** December 05, 2005, 06:27:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
In AH the limit is reached when the plane leaves the ground.

storch · « **Reply #89 on:** December 05, 2005, 09:38:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Wilbus
In AH the limit is reached when the plane leaves the ground.

Author Topic: Perking the TA152 (Read 4020 times)

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