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Offline Shane

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« Reply #270 on: December 20, 2005, 05:43:55 PM »
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If timid pilots annoy you, perhaps it's time to put the Spit away and fly something that has the speed to dictate the terms of engagements thru initiative. Ask Shane why he started flying the La7....
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per-zachly!!  and to my amazement once i got past the claustrophobic cockpit, crappy ballistics and testy low speed  handling... i found out what it could really do.  i've been doing my bit to get it perked ever since. :aok
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« Reply #271 on: December 20, 2005, 05:45:02 PM »
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On the deck out numbered 3 to 1 you have no advantages and should be an easy kill.  Just like being outnumberd  3 to 1 with an alt advantage, the 3 lower cons should be easy kills.  This is proven in the MA almost constantly.

 


Is it? What do you suppose the other two cons are doing while the E-Fighter is attempting to manuever with the third for a shot? They are degrading his relative energy advantage by alting or building up speed, as is the third guy if he has half a brain with suck-drag evasives. Once 3 more manueverable planes degrade the E of the E-Fighter he's pickled if he doesn't kill them all or disengage.

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« Reply #272 on: December 20, 2005, 05:47:34 PM »
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Then you'll always be boring to fight.

I've only flown the 38 this tour. I fight EVERY plane a come along. Zeke, hurri, spit16 whatever. To do less would be ghey... or "timid".


This is going to come as a HUGE shock to you so brace yourself!


Ready?



You sure?!?















I don't fly to be interesting to other people! I fly in a way I find interesting  to myself! I expect others to do the exact same for themselves. Whining because people won't fight your way is...well.....incredibly ego-centric and stupid...

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« Reply #273 on: December 20, 2005, 05:49:52 PM »
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Whining because people won't fight your way

Not whining just stating facts.

Just want them to fight period.

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« Reply #274 on: December 20, 2005, 06:15:35 PM »
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Not whining just stating facts.

Just want them to fight period.


So what if a guy doesn't want to engage you? Are you so target fixated you can't move along to one of the 50 other guys just waiting to fight? What is this morbid fascination and pre-occupation with what others will or won't do when, if, how, you want them to. Do what you want to do, and if your potential playmate doesn't want to, simple, go find a playmate that will...Half the planes in the air are turnfighters just like you I'm sure the vast majority of them will be more than happy to knife fight in a phone booth with you.

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« Reply #275 on: December 20, 2005, 06:31:00 PM »
I didnt get back home till 6:30 est :(  Perhaps when you re-subscribe we can track eachother down easier.

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« Reply #276 on: December 20, 2005, 07:15:14 PM »
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anything but first place never gets any mention.  get your skills up and maybe you can then be mentioned along with the big leaugers.


Lots o treble hooks on that one :lol   Think Ill let it pass on by.

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« Reply #277 on: December 20, 2005, 09:45:39 PM »
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It only sucks for the slow plane guy that can out-turn everything who gets mad when planes they know they can out-turn won't fight them on their terms. This is just a , "Fly my way" whine...I feel your pain though, when I am in a slow turner I really, really hope and pray every plane I happen upon will attempt to turn with me too. The only difference is I understand why they won't and don't blame them or whine about it.


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Zaz I will give you alt and 6 in ur tiff, me in average plane and if its just u and I, I wil drain ur E and kill you!  I think you probably are experiencing self doubt as you read this because you know I probably would kill you.  Take this as a test to your theory of "smart" flying!  Anytime you want to try this just give me a yell.:aok

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« Reply #278 on: December 20, 2005, 09:47:32 PM »
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I don't fly any of the Top 3 planes, and never will. If the Typhoon becomes a Top 3 plane I will stop flying it (although it never will).

Zazen

Cop out!  You fly the tiff because u only get a snap while booming in at 400.  With 4 20mm cannons its ur life saver!

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« Reply #279 on: December 20, 2005, 09:59:28 PM »
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Cop out!  You fly the tiff because u only get a snap while booming in at 400.  With 4 20mm cannons its ur life saver!


I fly the Typhoon because it has the three qualities I prize most in an Air Superiority Fighter: Speed, Firepower, and Good Nose-Low deflection view. It's all offense baby!

Turning = Defensive Quality
Speed & Firepower = Offensive Quality

If your a pilot that likes the intiative to dictate the terms of fights, speed and firepower is the way to go.

If you want to be a slippery target that can pull some tight turns to try to dodge slashing attacks turnrate is the way to go.




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« Reply #280 on: December 20, 2005, 10:29:23 PM »
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Are you so target fixated you can't move along to one of the 50 other guys just waiting to fight?

Target fixated? Not in the least.

What is this morbid fascination and pre-occupation with what others will or won't do when, if, how, you want them to.

morbid fascination and pre-occupation? You need to lay off the meds dewd.

Don't go Batfink on me now. We're just having a chat about your "fighting style" lameness. No need to get your panties in a wad. Just admit you suck and blow at the same time and we'll all just move along. No harm no foul. ;)

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« Reply #281 on: December 20, 2005, 11:48:05 PM »
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Don't go Batfink on me now. We're just having a chat about your "fighting style" lameness. No need to get your panties in a wad. Just admit you suck and blow at the same time and we'll all just move along. No harm no foul. ;)


I freely admit I suck, look back in this thread, I say I suck at least 7 times. ;)

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« Reply #282 on: December 21, 2005, 12:58:35 AM »
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I fly the Typhoon because it has the three qualities I prize most in an Air Superiority Fighter: Speed, Firepower, and Good Nose-Low deflection view. It's all offense baby!

Turning = Defensive Quality
Speed & Firepower = Offensive Quality





Zazen



Ahh...the Typhoon...the prized plane of the Timid AH flyer.  


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« Reply #283 on: December 21, 2005, 02:01:26 AM »
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Ahh...the Typhoon...the prized plane of the Timid AH flyer.  


ack-ack


Really? I can only think of 3 people that fly the Typhoon as their main ride.

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I guess if you want to call me timid you can, but I don't think those other two are timid. The Typhoon is not a very popular air superiority plane most just use it to Jabo fields not strictly to fight fighters as I do.

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« Reply #284 on: December 21, 2005, 03:20:31 AM »
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Not whining just stating facts.

Just want them to fight period.


Ok let explain me how a Typhon pilot should deal with a Co-E spitXVI.

I need badly some insight.

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Ahh...the Typhoon...the prized plane of the Timid AH flyer.  


ack-ack


Let stop with the cliché please.