Glasses, I doubt you could get any more wrong. I never once said the AIM9 was used in Korea...it was just part of the armament listing for the F-86...my point was, there were no 30mm cannons used in air-to-air combat between the P-80, F-86 and the MiG-15. I see your reading and comprehension skills are selective...seems like your registration date hasn't done a thing for you.
Read this again genius...or do I have to dummy it down?
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Here is the rewording...WWII era aerial combat is and has been more popular even with the limited introduction of some jet age flight sims...the only appeal for jets is a short lived "cool factor", as in "hey this jet has active radar seeking missiles and can detect an enemy 10 miles away"...and for every flight sim some wannabe fighter ace has come along and said "this <insert jet age wish> would be cool" until they actually experience it and find out, it's boring...it starts with the Korean war and by the time the wishes for the Vietnam era get granted, the entire lemming crowd realizes they were wrong and it's not as cool as WWII...that sir is gaming world historical fact.
1.BTW I never said the F-86 (it was in fact Mr Bar that mentioned something about the Sabre having a 30 not me
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,168291.msg3655636.html#msg3655636 ) or any allied aircraft during that time used the 30mm it was the MiG 15 all along,you're reading and quoting what you want,to make an argument out of something I didn't say. You even stated the MiG 15 didn't carry a 30mm cannon when it clearly states it did by your own quote from Wikipedia,it was in fact a 37mm cannon sue me . It was used in combat in the Korean War. Watch even clips on youtube from the Revisionist /Sensationalist History channel where Sabre vets clearly stated the fact that it had horrendous effects on UN aircraft. That and the fact that a North Korean pilot defected to the UN side midwar with an intact front line MiG 15.
2.Where is the qualitative verifiable proof of this, you are the one pulling things out of thin air.(For PC: Jane's Fighters Anthology, Jane's F-15, Jane's F-18, MiG Alley, USAF, IAF,Eurofighter, F-22 ADF/TAW,the Novalogic's F-22 games, Longbow I/II. Flanker 2.5, LOMAC ,etc. Though I'm not asking for any of these). You have to consider the size (minimal in the last couple of years) of the PC flight sim market to make such assumptions.The trend away from PC games which are not online due to piracy mainly and the ease of use of the consoles have been detrimental to the expansion of these games, though for the consoles the Ace Combat series have been a success,yes even if it's an arcade game. (Truth be told the vastness of WWII and the knowledge in modern pop culture with recent movies about the subject is why there have been more sims,games about ww2 than any other game particularly over the last 15/ 20 years,the sides the motives are clear cut and of course there is no morality or controversy about who were the bad guys.) Again, Korean Era 50-53 is about the same in Spirit as WW2 type engagements particularly in 1950-1952.
3. As to the Sabre using missiles in the Korean war, you simply pasted the armament in BOLD that it carried missiles, to make an explicit point about A-A missiles and why it shouldn't be added but didn't clarify when they were used .That by itself could be interpreted although in a deceitful manner as an argument to not have these types in the game . Withholding the fact they were not used during the Korean war,and not clarifying it could be considered plainly as a half truth,which would then yield you plausible deniability when called out on it . To support the fact that I'm or someone else will ask is asking for missile warfare during that era, that it will escalate , people will want radars ,afterburner,s etc (uh we don't have on board radars in MA?
). You're jumping the shark yet again.
Right and people here fly because they don't want to be a "wanna be" cartoon plane ace,imitate their favorite pilot and fly within the cartoon planes modeled here. Again, a non argument.
Say it in plain English next time, don't get emotionally incoherent and start hurling insults which you seem to be running to , just proves the fact that you're running out of arguments. Sorry, I won't bite at a mediocre attempt at just that.
The fact of the matter is that from WW2 to say Vietnam Era there IS A huuuuuuuuuuuge leap in tactics and technology however, from WW2 to Korea even though the speeds increased and perhaps the service ceiling on aircraft the engagements remained the same. Up close knife fighting and running away, though the performance differences between both the First gen MiG and Sabre were negligible .
