Author Topic: France sides with Hezbollah (Read 6440 times)

Eagler · « **Reply #60 on:** August 09, 2006, 02:27:26 PM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
right... good ole final solution style, eh?

you see any other permanent solution?
kill the jews maybe? there are less of them after all ...

~~Israel - good luck with your quest~~

Delirium · « **Reply #61 on:** August 09, 2006, 02:29:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
What is so hard to figure out?

Stop occupying Lebanon and they'll stop firing rockets.

Yes, they would cause the rockets to stop, the suicide bombers to stop coming over the border, and Iran/Syria/etc will happily stop arming militias in another country to do their bidding.

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straffo · « **Reply #62 on:** August 09, 2006, 02:44:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
you see any other permanent solution?
kill the jews maybe? there are less of them after all ...

~~Israel - good luck with your quest~~

Wow, a open support of genocide.

You can be happy I'm not a moderator, you would be PNG otherwise.

Neubob · « **Reply #63 on:** August 09, 2006, 03:07:50 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
No one is more blind than someone who don't want to see.

What, Straffo, is it that makes your points of view more enlightened?

The fact that you're niether Jewish nor Arab(a huge assumption, I admit) might lend you some objectivity. On the other hand it may just make you sufficiently indifferent. When it becomes an 'us against them' scenario, the arguments of the other side tend to dissolve against the overwhleming tide of self-preservation. Unfortunately, it's always been us against them, and after a couple thousand years of it, even you might stop caring about that other side thinks, or how it suffers.

You can sit on the sidelines and referee all you want, but so long as I have friends and family in harms way, I will not allow this war of ideology to turn into some sort of philosophical excercise. If this is a situation where one side must win, and the other, by default, must persish forever, then I know who I want to win. If both can live and let live, then I'm all for it.

You can resume your epithets now.

Eagler · « **Reply #64 on:** August 09, 2006, 03:24:55 PM »

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Originally posted by straffo
Wow, a open support of genocide.

You can be happy I'm not a moderator, you would be PNG otherwise.

how do you deal with a mad dog? we put them down over here - maybe you send them to therapy over there...

I do not support genocide only the total removal of ones enemies and those who support them

I just wish it was as simple as Rolex seems to think it is ..

Stang · « **Reply #65 on:** August 09, 2006, 03:32:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Rolex
This should elevate some blood pressure a little...

[The reality of Hezbollah is that it is a decidedly nationalistic organization that has gone on record condemning the September 2001 terror attacks against the United States, rejecting Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda, as well as any killing of innocent civilians in the name of Islam.

So firing hundreds of rockets at Israeli cities doesn't count toward killing innocent civilians? Must not. After all, they're Jewish, right?

straffo · « **Reply #66 on:** August 09, 2006, 03:46:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
What, Straffo, is it that makes your points of view more enlightened?

My POV has the same values as the other, I'm just a different voice.
The purpose of a forum is to share ,discuss and think ,I'm just trying to do my best.
I changed my opinion on lot of things (for example how I pictured the average american before being involved in AH) and still will change it (born idio I'll try to die less idiot).

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The fact that you're niether Jewish nor Arab(a huge assumption, I admit) [/B]

yep, as I'm quite unsure to not being part jew myself.

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might lend you some objectivity. [/B]

the day I pretend to be objective ... please kill me.

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On the other hand it may just make you sufficiently indifferent. [/B]

I'm not indifferent ,otherwise I won't be reading or posting at all.

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When it becomes an 'us against them' scenario, the arguments of the other side tend to dissolve against the overwhleming tide of self-preservation. Unfortunately, it's always been us against them, and after a couple thousand years of it, even you might stop caring about that other side thinks, or how it suffers.[/B]

All can change Germany and my country can proove it (even if I admit the real enemy is still UK

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You can sit on the sidelines and referee all you want, but so long as I have friends and family in harms way, I will not allow this war of ideology to turn into some sort of philosophical excercise. If this is a situation where one side must win, and the other, by default, must persish forever, then I know who I want to win. If both can live and let live, then I'm all for it.[/B]

Having to much empathy for both side ,I can't take this position.
FYI one of my best friend is in tsahal right now and even if I fully support him and his familly I still beleive I've the right to disagree with the action of his goverment and I've also lebanese friends.

What should I do ? suicide ?

Unfortunaly we don't have here people from the other side of the fence*,but for knowing both I weight them equal.
Both are good peoples unfortunalty there is allways bad apples.

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You can resume your epithets now. [/B]

it was not my intent perhaps your initial post was harsh for people not thinking like you,don't you think ?

@eagler: thank for clearing it but it's not my position,I don't compare human to animals

*not the fanatics ,obviously

Edbert1 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 09, 2006, 03:49:28 PM »

I am neither Israeli or Arab, Jew or Muslim.
Answer these two questions (to yourself if you want)...

1.) If the Arabs laid down their arms, disbanded their terrorists camps and publicly stated the legitimacy of the political state of Israel would there be peace?

2.) If the Israelis laid down their arms and opened their borders would there be a second holocaust as their neighbors "pushed them into the sea"?

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I beleive yes to both, so the moral question is as clear as black and white to me, I reject the "shades-of-grey" mentality to issues of right and wrong.

Elfie · « **Reply #68 on:** August 09, 2006, 04:32:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Edbert1
I am neither Israeli or Arab, Jew or Muslim.
Answer these two questions (to yourself if you want)...

1.) If the Arabs laid down their arms, disbanded their terrorists camps and publicly stated the legitimacy of the political state of Israel would there be peace?

2.) If the Israelis laid down their arms and opened their borders would there be a second holocaust as their neighbors "pushed them into the sea"?

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I beleive yes to both, so the moral question is as clear as black and white to me, I reject the "shades-of-grey" mentality to issues of right and wrong.

Spot on Edbert.

bj229r · « **Reply #69 on:** August 09, 2006, 05:13:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Elfie
Spot on Edbert.

The only problem is that point #1 would never happen-- there are MILLIONS of people over there who are taught from toddler age to wipe every Jew off the face of the earth, and that Allah supports them in this quest.

Elfie · « **Reply #70 on:** August 09, 2006, 05:21:28 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
The only problem is that point #1 would never happen-- there are MILLIONS of people over there who are taught from toddler age to wipe every Jew off the face of the earth, and that Allah supports them in this quest.

I realize that. That's why we wont see peace in the Middle East.

Side A wants peace, Side B only wants the complete destruction of Side A. That's why I cant understand why people harp on Side A's every response to Side B.

If folks would try to put themselves in Israel's shoes, and try to imagine their country in Israel's position, I think alot of attitudes on this BBS and around the world would change.

I personally dont know of any American that would be willing to put up with attacks from Mexico or Canada for very long before demanding the American military put a stop to the attacks.

Edbert1 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 09, 2006, 06:36:15 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
The only problem is that point #1 would never happen--

Oh, I quite agree, it was merely an exercise used to illustrate the glaringly obvious difference between the combatants.

#2 will never happen either.

Elfie · « **Reply #72 on:** August 09, 2006, 06:38:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Edbert1
Oh, I quite agree, it was merely an exercise used to illustrate the glaringly obvious difference between the combatants.

#2 will never happen either.

#2 would have a chance if #1 ever happened. It wont though =/

Infidel · « **Reply #73 on:** August 09, 2006, 07:16:52 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
The only problem is that point #1 would never happen-- there are MILLIONS of people over there who are taught from toddler age to wipe every Jew off the face of the earth, and that Allah supports them in this quest.

Where do people like you get ideas like that? You must be completely brain-washed. Riddle me this: Where do you think the largest Jewish community in the Middle-East outside Israel is?

Iran, with 25 thousand Jews living in the capital Tehran alone.

Former Iranian president Khatami visits a Tehran Jewish center.

lukster · « **Reply #74 on:** August 09, 2006, 07:20:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Infidel
Where do people like you get ideas like that? You must be completely brain-washed. Riddle me this: Where do you think the largest Jewish community in the Middle-East outside Israel is?

Iran, with 25 thousand Jews living in the capital Tehran alone.

Former Iranian president Khatami visits a Tehran Jewish center.

Is that the same Iran that was looking to have everyone wear identifying clothing a few months ago?