Unacceptable behavior-Not intended to be a gripe post.

[NCLawman]

Very valid point about the shooting chutes.  However, there is not enough information to make a reasobable 'judgment' for lack of a better word.

First... If you have bailed out and opened your chute, you are immediately able to do the .ef command or "end sortie" from the clipboard.  There is no need to just hang around and watch the fight.  You do not have to be on the ground for a successful bail.  Which then leads into the second point....

If you have bailed from the aircraft and are just floating around enjoying the view, there is only three reasons why.  You are "spying" reporting back enemy locations to friends -- thus a valid strategic target.  Or, you are close to an enemy airfield and are floating down to spawn camp the runway and shoot the pilots in the head of aircraft trying to take off.  That also makes you a perfectly valid target.  Or, you could be coming down over a friendly town that the enemy are trying to capture, you can (as a chute person) enter the maproom and kill troops as they enter and prevent the capture.  This also makes you a strategically valuable target.

So, if you were 10 miles from nowhere and NME-a came around to shoot you just for the entertainment of ensuring your "kill",  he is further dropping your score modifier and is a piece of crap.   But, I must ask, why were you just hanging around for him to return and kill you?

The only other valid argument I can make for the chute killing is people who bomb and bail.  Yes -- If I can find their chute I will shoot them into ashes, collect the dust and spread it out over the open open to ensure that they never materialize again.

But back to the original point, I do NOT as a rule of thumb, shoot the chutes unless they are coming down on my airfield -- or the above mentioned bomb-and-bailer.

[NCLawman]

Originally posted by jaxxo
3 reasons to  kill chutes 1) its fun 2) cutes gives 6 calls and relay intel back to squaddys 3) they have a gun and like to plink troops that may trying to capture, or they plink you on the runway......

Sorry, jaxxo... we must have been typing at the same time and you beat me to the punch.

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by SlapShot
I believe that you are wrong ... once he lands and goes back to the tower, he will get a "capture" or a "bail" ... which in turn impacts score.

Death Multipliers
 
Landed - 1.0
Discoed - 0.25
Bailed - 0.5
Ditched - 0.75
Captured - 0.4
Killed - 0.25
Crashed  - 0.25

I figure anyone who bails is trying to preserve their score ... meat puppets go BOOM.

Those multipliers affect perk point gain. Not scores.

Unless you get a ditched, eveything else is counted as "death" in the scores.

Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by SlapShot

Your airplane is NOT REAL ... your cartoon character is NOT REAL ... ergo ... no honor or integrity involved.

I am real if you dont mind that. And i like to be treated with respect - even though we are interacting over the internet.

But thats just my take on things. I know not everyone shares it.

[lambo31]

Every one has made some valid points so far and there's not much to add except personal opinion. I don't mind getting shot in my chute, and I will leave a nme chute alone for the most part. But that's because usually I go to tower as soon as I hit my chute. But, once in a while I will stay in it and try to hit nme planes with my .45. I have even flew over an nme base and went to chute with no damage to my plane just to vulch with my little handgun(did it once or twice, loads of fun).


Lambo

[Murdr]

Originally posted by Schatzi
Those multipliers affect perk point gain. Not scores.

They do affect Air Points, and Ground Points in scores.

[The Fugitive]

You don't even have to open your chute, just end flight after you bail.

To quote HT "everything you guys do is geared to piss off the other guy" and this is a perfect exsample. You have to remember, alot of folks fly to slip into the "WWII Simulation", but at the end of the day this is a game, and "honor" often times takes a back seat


....oh forgot to add, this has been happening for a long time Im sorry to say Obie, kids will be kids

[Lusche]

Though I leave chutes alone most of the time, I have to admit that there are some situations I will shoot if they refuse to "end sortie": Especially at hard-fought ground battles around  VFields they are a source of valuable information to the enemy -  "tiger to your right, moving through woods, now he´s turnin...". They are used as forward observers, as, unlike in "real war", they can still communicate with their teammates. In such a situation, I will kill them without mercy.
Anywhere else they may dangle in their straps till they rot

[Schatzi]

Originally posted by Murdr
They do affect Air Points, and Ground Points in scores.

I stand corrected. Overlooked those.

[GunnerCAF]

I think here is the problem:

I try and learn how to ACM and never have I ran from a fight. I like to consider most of the other people I've met are very honorable and have integrity when it comes to gameplay in the MA.

First, never worry about what the enemy thinks.  For example there are times to need to exit "run", unless you don't mind giving your kill to the enemy.  Part of ACM is to have good SA and have a plan to exit.  Don't worry about cries of frustration from the enemy because they should have had more energy or a faster plane.

Second, never worry about honor and integrity with the enemy in the MA.  I know most people who play ARE honerable and have integrity, but in the MA, do on to others before others can do on to you.  An exampe of this:  When you make a head-on pass with an enemy and he doesn't fire.  Don't assume he is being nice, he has already started his move to get on your 6 to shoot you down.

As far as shooting shutes in real life, from what I read, it did happen.  You might try free falling further before opining your shute to avoid being in a bad position for a long time.

 This is what I think.  Enjoy the game, and don't worry what others think

Gunner

[Gooss]

Chutes are targets.

You're welcome to post your definition of unacceptable behavior.

I reserve the right to not agree.

HONK!
Gooss

[MadSquirrel]

Just remember that how a person plays a game, in general says a lot about him as person.  

Don't loose sleep over it.  You will get those that defend chute shooting to the end.  And then you will have those that will judge if the player is a threat and take appropriate action.  By this I mean if the pilot bails in the middle of no place, why shoot him?  He is not a threat unless you fly back toward him.  I see a plane flying toward me, I will sure as heck shoot at him with my .45.  But in that instance the enemy aircraft intentionally made the chute a threat to him.  

As was posted "Honor Takes a Back Seat."  That is a shame.


LTARsqrl  <>

[SuperDud]

All I know is...

Don't shoot the greens!

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by MadSquirrel
Just remember that how a person plays a game, in general says a lot about him as person.  

I disagree. If this was true, anger management classes would be a booming business. It's a game, a place you don't have to act like you would in real life. It's a place to be 12 again.

[Dichotomy]

I'm pretty much the same here as in RL... I don't shoot chutes (unless it's troops) but I don't bail out either.  *shrug*

To each their own