Author Topic: Foley-gate congressional perv (Read 2966 times)

BTW · « **Reply #60 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:19:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
What a coincidence this scandal comes out 5 weeks b4 the mid term elections. I have no doubt the record will show the liberals (aka democrats) knew about this freakjob and held on to the information (thus allowing a threat to children to remain) so that they could use this info for political gain.

I guarantee it.

And yes, hastert should resign.

The sad thing is it appears people in both parties knew about Foley and he had a reputation of being "overly friendly." It seems the Republicans kept it hidden to protect their seat and the Democrats kept it hidden to spring it at the last moment. People on both sides of the aisle should be going to jail for endangering a minor. This is politics at its worst.

Hawco · « **Reply #61 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:24:05 PM »

Doesn't look like this is the first time for the Republicans:

Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.

Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.

Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

Urchin · « **Reply #62 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:27:02 PM »

See Rule #7

lukster · « **Reply #63 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:32:04 PM »

You wanna start comparing party affiliated child molesters Hawco I'll dig into the stats after this afternoon's job. I have little doubt the democrats will prove to be at least as perverse as the republicans.

Chairboy · « **Reply #64 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:39:11 PM »

I'd like to see that list, Lukster. As you may know, I think both parties suck. If you can provide something I can stuff into the pipe of my hippy friends and tell 'em to smoke it, it'd be nice. By this evening?

Hawco · « **Reply #65 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:41:24 PM »

It's not just that Frist and Hastert allowed things to go so horribly wrong and offered no oversight; it's also that they are both crooks. Frist has paid fines for his family company's medicare fraud and is now facing possible charges of insider trading and campaign finance irregularities. Hastert has accepted bribes from the Turkish government. So both are under the thumb of the administration which controls the Justice Department. As long as Frist and Hastert do the bidding of the White House, they will be "protected". Otherwise, they face possible prosecution and they know it. Again, BLACKMAIL is one of the White house's favorite methods of persuasion. I have no doubt that Hastert shared the information about Foley with Rove and was told to sit on it, but when ABC broke it, he went into CYA mode and pretended to want an investigation. Also, I have no doubt the White House knew all about Foley's emails and other activities anyway. After all, they spy on everyone, especially Congress. That gives them all the information they need to control things.

Hawco · « **Reply #66 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:44:50 PM »

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Originally posted by lukster
You wanna start comparing party affiliated child molesters Hawco I'll dig into the stats after this afternoon's job. I have little doubt the democrats will prove to be at least as perverse as the republicans.

I have little doubt that that they are, I was merely pointing out that this is not the first time this has been attributed to the Republicans.

Yeager · « **Reply #67 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:52:59 PM »

lol urchin...might want to get those gaskets and o-rings checked and lubed bro, dont want you blowing any fluids (no pun intended)

Yeager · « **Reply #68 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:11:42 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20061002/bs_ibd_ibd/2006102issues01

"If anything, the episode reveals the Democrats' hypocrisy about their own behavior. The fact that Foley resigned virtually within minutes of being told that ABC News had copies of his salacious e-mails and text messages indicates he at least felt shame for his actions. Can the same be said for Democrats?

Sadly, it doesn't seem so. How else can you explain the following?

In 1983, then-Democratic Rep. Gerry Studds of Massachusetts was caught in a similar situation. In his case, Studds had sex with a male teenage page -- something Foley hasn't been charged with.

Did Studds express contrition? Resign? Quite the contrary. He rejected Congress' censure of him and continued to represent his district until his retirement in 1996.

In 1989, Rep. Barney Frank (news, bio, voting record), also of Massachusetts, admitted he'd lived with Steve Gobie, a male prostitute who ran a gay sex-for-hire ring out of Frank's apartment. Frank, it was later discovered, used his position to fix 33 parking tickets for Gobie.

What happened to Frank? The House voted 408-18 to reprimand him -- a slap on the wrist. Today he's an honored Democratic member of Congress, much in demand as a speaker and "conscience of the party."

Rameusb5 · « **Reply #69 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:21:02 PM »

Obviously when the Democrats to it it's ok... but when the Republicans do it they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and beyond.

Or do I have that backwards?

Chairboy · « **Reply #70 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:28:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Rameusb5
Or do I have that backwards?

Nope, that's called a 'straw man argument'. Common mistake.

rpm · « **Reply #71 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:00:40 PM »

What this proves is Republicans are not the "good and rightious" party. Neither are the Democrats, btw.

Urchin · « **Reply #72 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:05:03 PM »

See Rule #7

Eagler · « **Reply #73 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:13:39 PM »

both parties are full of pervs
but why does only one side punish itself while the other side finds excuses for its behavior?
I'll let you figure out which side is which....

Chairboy · « **Reply #74 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:25:45 PM »

Eagler, when you wrote "punishes itself" you forget to add "after evidence is presented along with notice that it's about to or has just become public". This seems to apply to both parties, but certainly removes any moral credibility you might be trying to imply that the GOP has as a whole.