Author Topic: Cherry Picking (Read 4339 times)

FALCONWING · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:11:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Spatula
LOL, lovely thread. A cherry picker is an insult used to attempt to discredit the guy that killed ya cause you didnt check your 6. For every 'cherry picker' theres a dumbarnold cherry...

Yep!! everytime i see text about cherry picking , i think to myself "what a moron. he didnt use his low speed adv to maneuver out of the way. now he has the cajones to whine about it..."

FALCONWING · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:14:23 PM »

By the way..i almost forgot my definition of cherrypicking..

CHERRY PICKED = You got shotdown!!!! So what??!?!?! Get over it and get a little E next time!!! AND resist the urge to type insults over ch200 because you sound like a 4 yo girl!

SkyRock · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2006, 11:34:42 PM »

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Originally posted by FALCONWING
By the way..i almost forgot my definition of cherrypicking..

CHERRY PICKED = You got shotdown!!!! So what??!?!?! Get over it and get a little E next time!!! AND resist the urge to type insults over ch200 because you sound like a 4 yo girl!

1) Not all people who think players that cherry pick are lame will say that on 200!
2) My opinion is cherry picking is part of arial combat.
3) Another opinion of mine is that vets who do nothing but cherry pick are lame!
4) There are also many who just wait for one poor sap to get the enemy's E down fighting him, only to come blasting through and get the lame cherry kill the other guy worked hard for. There fore "stealing" the glory from the guy who worked for it. I think those types are lame as well! Just MHO!

drkorf · « **Reply #18 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:43:22 AM »

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Originally posted by FALCONWING ...resist the urge to type insults over ch200 because you sound like a 4 yo girl!

Hmm, your use of females and children to form an insult is pretty weak, tuff guy. What next, gonna pick on old people? These boards would be more entertaining with more witty banter and less drivel.

Clutz · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:54:30 AM »

What if a few of us like to dog fight? How can we when there are 10 cherry pickers above and 10 guys in La7's diving in HO from 12k altitude? Tonight this guy and I had a nice dog fight going. We were into it about 4 or 5 minutes, and wouldn't you know...... here comes a cherry picker and kills me. Now this wasn't to cool for me, but you know, it wasn't to cool for the guy that I was fighting either. He was just about to close the turn and kill me. Lame lame cherry picker ruined it for both of us. I spent about 10 hours playing this game in the last two days looking for a dog fight. I think I found maybe 5 or 6. I think the guys that like to dog fight (the vets) give up and get so disgusted they just don't play very often. Either that or they can't dog fight because there is nothing but cherry pickers everywhere. How many pilots besides me like to dog fight? Maybe 5 or 6? If there is any more than that, I sure cant find any of them. Closest thing I came to dog fighting in the last 10 hours I played was about 50 times trying to sucker a cherry picker to come down and get me. But then as soon as I try to fight them they just fly away at 350 mph and go real hi again and try the same lame crap again. This is boring. The Internet can't really handle 450mph fighting. Any kills made this way is about like throwing a hand full of penny's in the air and then getting real excited when some of them land heads up. Boring!

stickpig · « **Reply #20 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:54:52 AM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
1) Not all people who think players that cherry pick are lame will say that on 200!
2) My opinion is cherry picking is part of arial combat.
3) Another opinion of mine is that vets who do nothing but cherry pick are lame!
4) There are also many who just wait for one poor sap to get the enemy's E down fighting him, only to come blasting through and get the lame cherry kill the other guy worked hard for. There fore "stealing" the glory from the guy who worked for it. I think those types are lame as well! Just MHO!

Totally agree.....

Too many never even try to get in harms way and just let others do the dirty work...... Those are the pickers that are lame...you know who you are.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2006, 01:10:53 AM »

Does it start with "B", stick?

Spatula · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:35:20 AM »

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Originally posted by Clutz
What if a few of us like to dog fight? How can we when there are 10 cherry pickers above and 10 guys in La7's diving in HO from 12k altitude?

I can sympathise with this, and it does suck when you've been working away hard at someone, and someone else swoops in and kills ya. But thats just the way things are in AH2. You got yourself in that position. If you want a fair one-on-one scrap you can organise one in the DA or some empty bit of sky. No-one has an inalienable right to fight only those that they intend, in the order they intend, in the exact style they want them to, others WILL come and their styles WILL vary - learn to deal with that. Every style has its strengths and its weaknesses...

If you get yourself low n slow you can expect someone else will come along, and invariably they will have more E than you - you cant blame them for that.

What does it matter if you get 'picked' off by another furballer, or someone who come screaming down through the middle? The effect is the same, you get shot by someone you didnt expect. A failure of SA, is a failure of SA, not something that legitamises silly name-calling.

BigR · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2006, 02:43:51 AM »

if you die its always your fault. You should thank the picker for teaching you about SA. If you’re in a furball or an area with a lot of people, it’s guaranteed that you will eventually be at a disadvantage. If you don’t like it, go play in the DA . The MA is NOT about fair fights. It never has been. I never hear the really great sticks complain about getting picked. Funny.

stegor · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2006, 03:55:33 AM »

The major issue in cherrypicking is in you being a cherry.
Don't fly like a cherry, and you don't have to worry about cherrypickers.

Cherrypicking is a complex game of patience, timing, shooting, calculating ways for escape, and who doesn't master it try to diminish it, as often happens in life

SkyRock · « **Reply #25 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:11:06 AM »

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Originally posted by BigR
if you die its always your fault. You should thank the picker for teaching you about SA. If you’re in a furball or an area with a lot of people, it’s guaranteed that you will eventually be at a disadvantage. If you don’t like it, go play in the DA . The MA is NOT about fair fights. It never has been. I never hear the really great sticks complain about getting picked. Funny.

1) The post is not about who's "fault" it is.
2) Nobody is saying cherrypicking isn't "fair".
3) You obviously don't "fly" with the great sticks, as "cherry picking" is one of the few things I do hear them comment about! Many will not comment about it on 200, but on squad or among friends the comments will go something like this:

Great stick #1- You still up?
Great stick #2- Nah got picked by teh lamer picker dweeb
Great stick #1- Yeah, there's plenty of them over there
Great stick #2- What ride next?

4) Like I said earlier, its part of the growing phase and perfectly fair and acceptable gameplay.

SkyRock · « **Reply #26 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:17:34 AM »

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Originally posted by stegor
The major issue in cherrypicking is in you being a cherry.
Don't fly like a cherry, and you don't have to worry about cherrypickers.

Cherrypicking is a complex game of patience, timing, shooting, calculating ways for escape, and who doesn't master it try to diminish it, as often happens in life

Let me give you a "for instance":

You fly around and the furball is so enticing right about 5k. There are two enemies above the furball at 11k. The two are very timid and everytime you fly near them and start to climb they fly off. You finally say well I'll just have to watch them. You engage in the furball and get into it with several cons. It's a long hard fight and you've killed one and are fighting for your life with the other when, the 190 who wouldn't play comes through at 500mph and takes your vert stab. You saw him coming but said "F it" I would rather fight than "wait" or "chase". So you up another ride and head to the furball again! It's all fair and all good..................and extremely lame as well!

Oh and btw, it takes about as long to master that "art" as does a newborn to learn how to go poopy!:aok

Clutz · « **Reply #27 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:19:04 AM »

I got an idea. What if we had an arena for each style of fighting. The Ho guys could have their own arena. I'm sure they would just love that. Crashing into each other at 450mph. Wow. Combined, that would be a 900 mph impact! The vulchers could have their on arena. It would be fun to watch them fly right over each other in the air without engaging just so they can fly to the nearest base and vulch each other 10 feet of the runway. The cherry pickers could have their on arena too! Hmmm? But who could they cherry pick? Each other? That one might not work.

Then the dog fighters could have their own arena, that would be way cool.

This is sarcastic, and I am whining a bit. I guess I am sad and disheartened because this is what I posted about 10 days ago and I wish it could be like this again.

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I have been working on my PC for the last couple of weeks so last night Friday was my first time with the new format.

I jumped in Late Arena around 10:00 pm central time. Was like 50, 52, 49 players of each side. I played for a couple of hours just fighter pilot. It was all dog fighting ever where I flew. Never took me more than two minutes to find a good fight. I didn't even need to look for them, they were everywhere. No vulching, no HO's, and no cherry picking. I didn't see a single incident of any of them at all. Everybody was so nice. I got a couple of salutes. Twice I almost got HO'ed but the pilots both times turned away (as I did) and continued the dog fight. I didn't see a single furball though (I like to BnZ furballs), : It was more of a bunch of big, (and small) real loose, furball dog fights. It was the most fun I have had since I started this game I guess 4 or 5 months ago. Now I think I understand Pyro's terminology "arena health". Pyro.

But if we are good boys and girls, maybe we can get the old Fighter Town back for a day or two.

~~everybody at AH, I'm pleased as punch. At least so far!~~

I guess in my heart I knew it was a freak accident that this happened to me that night. Maybe I am wrong, but this is the way I think players should play. I espically like the part I said about people being nice. I get ~~quite often in a good dog fight. And I enjoy losing a dog fight as much as I enjoy winning one, maybe even more. Never ever once has a HO'er or a vulcher or a cherypicker ~~me, I wonder why?~~~~

FALCONWING · « **Reply #28 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:29:21 AM »

Im really just arguning for fun now but here goes...

i agree skyrock that once you are already in the situaion it is hard to climb up to their alt and catch them...

so what you do is you grab alt next flight ...may have to use a secondary launch base....you show up at thier alt and kill them!!! then when the skies are clear you can decend into the melee b4 other high alt planes show up.

look, there are a bucnh of different types of planes available to fly...many are not turn and burn planes (FW, 51, etc). do they have to anticipate the plane and type of fight going on b4 they launch into a darbar?

FBplmmr · « **Reply #29 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:37:08 AM »

this is cherry picking.. but it was also fun

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