Who's idea was this?

[Simaril]

Remember what HT said not long ago...

AH is now growing fine, and in fact the totals logged on are UP, not DOWN. Last Thursday had the highest totals in 3 months, according to HT -- BETTER than before the changes you guys are saying will kill the game.



You are in the minority position. Most people are playing and having fun.


It might be wise to acknowledge the FACT that the "old way of doing things" has gone and will not be back, because this way is working better for most people. Have fun the way it is -- you guys are starting to sound like the LuftWhiners of old, right down to the conspiracy theory crap.









PS I agree that soda tastes better in glass bottles.

[ghi]

Originally posted by Simaril
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It might be wise to acknowledge the FACT that the "old way of doing things" has gone and will not be back, because this way is working better for most people.
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  What's working better!?

 in LW1--- are 90 bish/40knits/60 rooks, Bish are vulching and grab land,reset the out# team/map 3 times/day

 in the same time in LW2, 30 bish /40 knits/90 rooks, rooks are vulching all fronts, reset map and out#team,3 times/day

Mw,and EW, who cares what's going on, cuz are soo unbalanced, just unplayable,
Still in LW arena can find some balanced gaming, sometimes

  The "old way of doing things", is still here and it will never die unless the bases became uncapturable and war can't be won

[Overlag]

ghi is correct, the game hasnt, and will not change ONE bit with these changes because people will ALWAYS find the path of least resistance to take bases.

the only problem with these changes is you are so limited on where you can fly.

players PER base/sector is the exact same as it was with the large maps. now we are limited to fights over 20-40 bases, instead of over 200 different bases per map

[NoBaddy]

COndor...ever hear the expression "Wall of Text"?

[FrodeMk3]

AH is now growing fine, and in fact the totals logged on are UP, not DOWN. Last Thursday had the highest totals in 3 months, according to HT -- BETTER than before the changes you guys are saying will kill the game.

There is only one problem with this, Sim.

Because of the way that HTC has been moderating the boards since the change, and the way that they've been making the changes, Not many actually take anything that HTC has said for granted. Alot of people don't even trust them much anymore(This is based on conversations heard and seen on text in-game.) Unless Dale was to make his Business data open to everyone, and you know he won't, people are gonna assume that things are actually going downhill. When you see people posting screenshots that show lower overall totals than what we used to have, that makes for more evidence contrary to what you claim.

[Fruda]

Wow... All of this has been going on? I guess it really was a good idea to stop making my sound packs.

Maybe I have ESP.

[Mr No Name]

The brainiac who did this is now the "Robert S. Mcnamara" of Aces High.  My squad is fractured because of this change and squad unity is the only reason the 29 of us stay here... More than likely we will move back to Warbirds as a few others have done already.  

I hope this is just a temporary illness here like the "New Coke" and other debacles and blunders throughout history.

In the past all of the people here resisted splitting arenas for the very reason i cited.  

If you want to make the split work guys, this is how you do it:

Create a furball or FT arena and a GV arena.  this will take those dedicated furballers out of the mix, make them happy so they can furball without fear of base capture, etc.  The strict GV guys can have a tank town without bombers...

and those of us who like to win the war the way the game is designed can have the large scale battle we crave.  The game (as designed) should be all about squads operating together to defend or capture bases and the greater the numbers in the arena, the more options you have to make that happen.

hey, just because i am a 'win the war' guy doesnt mean that i think you all need to play it my way.  I want the furballers happy too and think they need their own arena, but not 4 arenas as they have it now.  EW and MW are strictly furball arenas...  LW is so restricted in numbers that I doubt seriously that you will see a 40 formation bomber mission with 25+ escorts.

I loved those missions... participating in them and defending against them!  I am a FW190A8 pilot primarily, my diet consists of B17s, B24s and Lancs for the most part... The changes to the game are starving me!  In LW the focus is primarily on the fighter because of LOW numbers, it's a question of survival, today I saw ONE decent bomber raid - 5 formations sadly i was unprepared for them because my A8 is so terribly outclassed in the LW arena I had to opt for a faster, lighter armed plane.

If we are going to split the community then lets do it according to player style and not through such drastic, unnecessary means.  For those who are marching in lockstep with anything coming out of grapevine, you know who you are, consider my points on this... If you have made a decision to divide us then why not split us based on player style and preference rather than force us to fly without all of our friends who want to play the way we do?  I like this game BECAUSE of my SQUAD... we liked the game as a group because of the large numbers in the arena.  As the game is set up now, it is very dull by comparison with gameplay a few months ago.

[Mr No Name]

short term you are going to have larger numbers because of curiosity and people are going to try all of the arenas... long term splits like this that are forced are bad.

[Tumor]

Relax already...  Have fun... don't worry... BE HAPPY!  CT will be out (sometime this millenium)

[Mr No Name]

I have no desire to play CT either LOL.  I work for a living, I don't want to login to a game and be told to go bomb an aspirin factory 6 sectors away with half a dozen waypoints... no thanks... I want to login, talk to my squaddies.... maybe make a little trouble somewhere and then call it a night.

[RacrX]

Originally posted by Simaril
Remember what HT said not long ago...

AH is now growing fine, and in fact the totals logged on are UP, not DOWN. Last Thursday had the highest totals in 3 months, according to HT -- BETTER than before the changes you guys are saying will kill the game.


You are in the minority position. Most people are playing and having fun.

It might be wise to acknowledge the FACT that the "old way of doing things" has gone and will not be back, because this way is working better for most people. Have fun the way it is -- you guys are starting to sound like the LuftWhiners of old, right down to the conspiracy theory crap.

WTF are you talking about??? Quit towing the company line and look at the numbers...

Used to be I could find 700 plus people flying between 6-9 est on any given night (including my own damn squad without wasting 30 minutes gathering them in same arena...) Now I log on and am shocked and saddened to find less then 400 on most weeknights  flying and thats on PEAK times its a little better on weekends but not much...

AH will die if it succumbs to the asskissing
 
"WOW THINGS ARE GREAT I CAN FIND A FAIR FIGHT IN MY SPIT1 NOW! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK DALE, CAN I POLISH YOUR JOYSTICK SIR???"

 mega posting no life crowd....some people fly for the hordes, smack talk, squad interaction and alliances and rolling hordes and if they are not happy they will leave... I like the concept and most of the changes dont get me wrong, if you 30 to 40 ppl want to fly in EW or MW arena God love ya, have fun, but leave my horde alone!!!!!!

[Sundowner]

"As we speak you have had more customers leaving than you do joining over the last several weeks. "

How do you know this, Condor?

Is there a link where I can look this info up?

Regards,
Sun

[jtdragon]

Wonder how many of the log ins are like I've been doing last few weeks, log in & out a dozen time because I'm sent to a area with only 5-10 people in it. This is in  morning times (EST). Evens are not to bad with the high numbers in both LW areas. Maps as or an issuse, If no GV play I'll fly some then leave and the new maps are very bad for GV's.

one comment about people leaving, we don't have the imfo that HT has but I will say that I see alot of people missing that I played with, people that use to play everyday so I will say the changes have drive away some.

[Overlag]

Originally posted by Mr No Name


The brainiac who did this is now the "Robert S. Mcnamara" of Aces High.  My squad is fractured because of this change and squad unity is the only reason the 29 of us stay here... More than likely we will move back to Warbirds as a few others have done already.  

I hope this is just a temporary illness here like the "New Coke" and other debacles and blunders throughout history.

In the past all of the people here resisted splitting arenas for the very reason i cited.  

If you want to make the split work guys, this is how you do it:

Create a furball or FT arena and a GV arena.  this will take those dedicated furballers out of the mix, make them happy so they can furball without fear of base capture, etc.  The strict GV guys can have a tank town without bombers...

Im against this. Furballers can find a fight anywhere, but they dont want that, they want a furball on the deck, without risk of dying. The whole map can be a FT if they choose to fight. But they dont, they moan about hordes takening defenceless bases... well they are the defenders and they arnt fighting... Thats the problem.

GV's i feel for. Only 3 maps cater for them. Other than that theres nothing. These small maps that we thought we would never see again when AHII came out need to be tweaked... they need GV spawn points, so GV'ers arnt left out. Still i disagree that there should be a TT also, if the maps was designed for it properly there wouldnt be any need.

We have lost some fantastic big maps, without any good reasoning. We used to have 700 people per 512x512 map, now we have 250-270 per 256x256 map, almost the exact same people per base as before.....

Originally posted by Mr No Name


and those of us who like to win the war the way the game is designed can have the large scale battle we crave.  The game (as designed) should be all about squads operating together to defend or capture bases and the greater the numbers in the arena, the more options you have to make that happen.

hey, just because i am a 'win the war' guy doesnt mean that i think you all need to play it my way.  I want the furballers happy too and think they need their own arena, but not 4 arenas as they have it now.  EW and MW are strictly furball arenas...  LW is so restricted in numbers that I doubt seriously that you will see a 40 formation bomber mission with 25+ escorts.

I loved those missions... participating in them and defending against them!  I am a FW190A8 pilot primarily, my diet consists of B17s, B24s and Lancs for the most part... The changes to the game are starving me!  In LW the focus is primarily on the fighter because of LOW numbers, it's a question of survival, today I saw ONE decent bomber raid - 5 formations sadly i was unprepared for them because my A8 is so terribly outclassed in the LW arena I had to opt for a faster, lighter armed plane.

Exactly what i said in another thread while bein calm...

this "massive" multiplayer game has lost SO much, no longer will huge bomber missions happen, no longer will the escorts have fun, no longer will the bomber hunters have fun, more fights/fun gone out the window... Even though thats what we are trying to create here... more fights. hmm.....

Originally posted by Mr No Name

If we are going to split the community then lets do it according to player style and not through such drastic, unnecessary means.  For those who are marching in lockstep with anything coming out of grapevine, you know who you are, consider my points on this... If you have made a decision to divide us then why not split us based on player style and preference rather than force us to fly without all of our friends who want to play the way we do?  I like this game BECAUSE of my SQUAD... we liked the game as a group because of the large numbers in the arena.  As the game is set up now, it is very dull by comparison with gameplay a few months ago.

[Rino]

I say things aren't that bad till the strat-weenies voices go up at
least one more octave   Heaven forfend you might need to expend
some effort to rule the AH world.  

     Some folks have gotten lazy with the 15 buff formation/35 Jabo raid
to flatten a vehicle base thing