Originally posted by Toad
You continue down the same unsupported path.
For example, let's assume that women can pull more G's than men as you've stipulated. Fine.
That does not prove that women can/do utilize this capablity to outperform their male counterparts in combat aircraft. As you point out, the data is simply not there. As Rolex points out, there are other aspects that may preclude women from successfully utilizing this advantage.
But you're quite willing to assume they will be able to do so although the data is not in.
In the case of the F-22, it is inanimate. It's a piece of hardware with a known flight/weapons envelope that HAS been tested in simulated aerial combat missions.
Red Flag/Top Gun is simulated aerial combat; do women achieve Distinguished Graduate status at a disproportionate rate compared to their male classmates? Data missing, again.
Again, if you think I'm being hard on women pilots, you are wrong. Read that linked thread that talks about the 1st T-Bird woman pilot and see what I said way back then.
It's simply that you are drawing conclusions from totally insufficient data. It's a habit that won't serve you well on this BBS. As you've seen, it's a pretty harsh environment.
I work in a pretty harsh environment. I am used to it. No problem there.
I am the only female engineer in my company and it is an engineering company.
I can site WWII combat results data on the only Air Force that allowed women to fly Fighters and Bombers in combat, TMK. The Air Force of the former USSR. There were Ace female fighter pilots.
I concede your point...
Let me rephrase it... "Women have shown to the US Air Force the potential to be as good or better than men fighting in actual arial combat... Given the opportunity, I believe we will prove this to be so."
In the case of the F-22 we are talking potential vs results... inanimate or living, the issue is the same. Potential vs Results
At least one female USAF Pilot apparently has combat flight experience that I have found so far... Lieutenant Colonel Martha McSally, USAF
Martha McSally is a pilot in the U.S. Air Force. She was the first American woman to fly in combat since the lifting of the 1991 prohibition of women in combat. McSally is also the first woman to command an American fighter squadron, the 354th Fighter Squadron based at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base. McSally is an A-10 Thunderbolt II pilot.
McSally graduated from St. Mary Academy - Bay View and then the United States Air Force Academy in 1988. She earned a Master's degree from Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government. She was selected for fighter pilot school in 1993, and was deployed to Kuwait in January 1995. During that deployment, she flew combat patrol over Iraq enforcing the no-fly zone. In July, 2004, she took command of the A-10 equipped 354th, and was subsequently deployed to Afghanistan, where she deployed weapons in combat for the first time. In 2005 McSally and her squadron were awarded the David C. Shilling Award, given by the Air Force Association for the best aerospace contribution to national defense.
McSally was represented by the Rutherford Institute in her successful lawsuit against the Department of Defense, challenging the military policy that required servicewomen stationed in Saudi Arabia to wear the body-covering abaya when traveling in the country.
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