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Offline SirLoin

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« Reply #75 on: November 14, 2006, 06:42:57 PM »
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« Reply #76 on: November 14, 2006, 06:48:06 PM »
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Kev thanks for pointing Kweassas post out..  I think that is the single most logical well though out post I have read in a loooooong time Kweassa.

 After reading that I think nothing else needs be said.


The only problem i see with that, is those were the words describing us 10 years ago when AW got bigger and it was no longer by the hour paying for it.

We were the 'aliens'.  How come we figured it out?  

You could argue that for those of us with the AW background (can't speak for WB's) that this started when they chose to make base capture that much bigger of a part in the game.

I don't believe that we have no choice but to leave it as is and play 'win the reset' without a fight.

There have to be ways to make actual conflict a part of this virtual game/war.  I'm not at the point where I'm willing to just accept it as the way it is.  Clearly HTC isn't as well if they are trying to change the direction.
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« Reply #77 on: November 14, 2006, 06:50:22 PM »
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I don't believe that we have no choice but to leave it as is and play 'win the reset' without a fight.


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« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2006, 07:21:39 PM »
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The only problem i see with that, is those were the words describing us 10 years ago when AW got bigger and it was no longer by the hour paying for it.

We were the 'aliens'.  How come we figured it out?  

You could argue that for those of us with the AW background (can't speak for WB's) that this started when they chose to make base capture that much bigger of a part in the game.

I don't believe that we have no choice but to leave it as is and play 'win the reset' without a fight.

There have to be ways to make actual conflict a part of this virtual game/war.  I'm not at the point where I'm willing to just accept it as the way it is.  Clearly HTC isn't as well if they are trying to change the direction.


Rather than trying (isn't working) to get the majority to play the game in a specific way, you'd think it would be more profitable to adapt/re-structure the game to suit the majority, while including all other styles also.
As was pointed out despite all the extra planes and eye candy the game itself hasn't fundamentaly changed in over 4 years, yet the playerbase has.

Maybe we are at a crossroads.
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« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2006, 07:34:54 PM »
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The only problem i see with that, is those were the words describing us 10 years ago when AW got bigger and it was no longer by the hour paying for it.

We were the 'aliens'.  How come we figured it out?  


 You, or the guys that taught you, were trained in an official class. There were still a large enough percentage of vets around to run a decent AWTA...even then we lost to the alien numbers eventually, when I left FR AW3 the game was already about the reset even without perks OR a new map.

 Making it meaningful again is as simple as coding a rule that you can't use the same field again for two flights if you die. I suggested this 3 years ago, still applies. Back then, there was no interest in curbing horde activity by HTC but it's been a prevalent problem since I joined the game.

  Adding more ack or making the field tougher will only encourage larger hordes.

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« Reply #80 on: November 14, 2006, 09:03:53 PM »
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Change town ack from puffy back to AutoAck and you will see some changes.

That one change has made it almost stupid easy to capture airfields.

PLEASE change the town ack back to the way it was.
Didn't HiTech say at the Con it was never supposed to be changed to puffy in the first place?  I wonder why he never followed through on changing it back?
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« Reply #81 on: November 14, 2006, 09:13:19 PM »
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Explanations

 The "vets" are entering extinction. The "aliens" are breeding like rats. Sooner or later, the line of the old vets will be lost, and the aliens will replace the flight combat sim world.

An excellent and well thought out post, Kweassa.  I disagree with this conclusion (although obviously the original vets will die some day).  There is still an influx of new people who want to learn how to fly these virtual planes competently against other like-minded people, and who are not now, and probably never will be, interested in some abstraction of an overall "war."  I've seen them in the AvA, probably everyone else has seen them in the other arenas.  I believe that there will always be such people.   The question is whether HTC will aim his game at them, or go for the high numbers of people who are satisfied with a low skill plateau so long as they can enjoy a Budweiser team effort to achieve some perceived game goal.  I suspect that's where we are now, on the eve of CT.

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« Reply #82 on: November 14, 2006, 09:17:32 PM »
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"Resetting map, winning the war, my objective. I've not switched countries for several years. Good or bad, winning or losing, I fly the same side and try to help my country win and avoid losing."

It's a poor attempt at making it sound noble somehow.  No war is won, a redo is done.  The war never ends.  Why isn't it about the fight?  
Is football about blocking and tackling, or is it about scoring?

To some, the only "touchdown" in AH is the reset.  The rest is blocking and tackling.

Some don't take it quite that far and look at each base capture as a touchdown.  But the end of the game still doesn't occur unless the buzzer sounds -- again, that's the reset in AH.

Still others don't care if their team scores a touchdown or not, or wins or not, so long as they get to knock someone else on their behind in the process.

In imperfect analogy to be sure, but it will do.
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« Reply #83 on: November 14, 2006, 09:55:11 PM »
Yup, a terrible analogy.

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« Reply #84 on: November 14, 2006, 10:17:49 PM »
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Yup, a terrible analogy.

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« Reply #85 on: November 14, 2006, 10:25:15 PM »
Whoring is all about the $$$, not the love.

Thats a better analogy. ;)
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« Reply #86 on: November 14, 2006, 10:48:30 PM »
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A trans-country ninja squad could be formed to hunt down the milkrunners.



NB <---- Lactose intolerant...I would join. :D
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« Reply #87 on: November 14, 2006, 10:49:56 PM »
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Didn't HiTech say at the Con it was never supposed to be changed to puffy in the first place?  I wonder why he never followed through on changing it back?


Actually, I pointed it out to him in a phone conversation about a month ago. He didn't realize it and said it would be changed.
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« Reply #88 on: November 14, 2006, 11:08:04 PM »
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Lot's of manned 88s at the feilds and more manned quad 37s or 40mms!


How long have I been saying this?????:rolleyes:

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« Reply #89 on: November 14, 2006, 11:13:15 PM »
I always wanted a .50 cal mounted in the roof of the tower surrounded by sandbags.


 





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