Does this news from the Middle East surprise anyone here?

[ByeBye]

Originally posted by Viking
I would prefer whatever makes Iraq not become a satellite of Iran, or even part of Iran. Unfortunately I don't think there is anything you can do at this point to prevent that, unless of course you're willing to give the reigns back to the Sunnis and let them oppress the Shi'ites like Saddam did. I don't see that happening.

Well, thank you for the honest answer. Iraq is a mess, and that's for sure.

The only option I think we have is to stay there and try to get it worked out.

[Viking]

You're welcome, and thank you for your thoughts. I agree that you're in a mess down there, and I'm glad it's not up to me to figure out a solution that doesn't end in a catastrophe. Seems like a hopeless job.

[culero]

Originally posted by Viking
You think the US will side with Iran?

I for one think that a cordial relationship with various coordinations of effort would be a great thing.

I would, for instance, support Iran taking over the occupation of Iraq from us, allowing us observer units with unrestricted access. We would keep air power and rapidly deployable shock troops closeby the region (Italy? Germany?), but outside Iraq.

We'd tell 'em, essentially, "Want us out? Do it yourself...but we're gonna watch and we're bad."

culero

[ByeBye]

Originally posted by culero
I for one think that a cordial relationship with various coordinations of effort would be a great thing.

I would, for instance, support Iran taking over the occupation of Iraq from us, allowing us observer units with unrestricted access. We would keep air power and rapidly deployable shock troops closeby the region (Italy? Germany?), but outside Iraq.

We'd tell 'em, essentially, "Want us out? Do it yourself...but we're gonna watch and we're bad."

culero

Dissagree. We wouldn't be telling anyone that "we're bad" by running away.

Also, we are not occupying Iraq.

[oboe]

ByeBye, known formerly here as NUKE, was a cheerleader of the US invasion of Iraq, and predicted a bright future for Iraq as a stable democracy.

[Viking]

Originally posted by culero
I for one think that a cordial relationship with various coordinations of effort would be a great thing.

I would, for instance, support Iran taking over the occupation of Iraq from us, allowing us observer units with unrestricted access. We would keep air power and rapidly deployable shock troops closeby the region (Italy? Germany?), but outside Iraq.

This Iran you're talking about, is it the same Iran that is vying for nuclear weapons, calling for the destruction of Israel and calling America "The Great Satan"?

You would have Iran control Iraq and gain control of even more of the regions oil deposits?

[Nude]

Originally posted by oboe
ByeBye, known formerly here as NUKE, was a cheerleader of the US invasion of Iraq, and predicted a bright future for Iraq as a stable democracy.

I have to admit I had fun reading old posts from Nuke:
Post 1.

Oh this is a gem:

The war is going to be a savior for the people of Iraq and possibly other countries in the area.
I will come back to this forum after the war and ask you to re-state your opinion.

[Nude]

Heheh...

The war is a watershed event in the Middle East. The war will be won, peace will be achieved and other nations in the region will begin to consider their stances on supporting dictators and terrorists.

I just want to go on record for the ages and state that I stand behind this war and believe it was the right thing to do. We will see it through until the end.

Another example of the sacrifices Americans are willing to endure in order to do the right thing. Bush is a great leader and I thank God that he has the guts and honesty to make the difficult, unpopular decisions necessary for someone in his position.

Way to go America, Britain, Australia, Poland, Spain, and ALL of our other allies. We did the right thing.

[Nude]

Bush is going to win this next election big, then will go down in history as one of our best Presidents.

[oboe]

Last night I ran across a quote that reminded me of NUKE/ByeBye:

"Conceit is an unusual disease; it makes everyone sick but the one who has it."

No wonder he changed his BB handle.   To be fair, he had plenty of company here - it's just that his posts always struck me as among the most deluded.   It's that attitude of hubris and certainty that he has - and then to be completely wrong after all.   Just like GW.   To my mind, the enduring tragedy of Iraq is that almost everything that has happened was predictable.   Bush Sr even knew it back in '91.  

If anyone actually realizes what deep sheeit the U.S. is in regarding Iraq and its own financial future, they aren't saying much, or aren't given much attention.  Of course sometimes people's actions give away what they are thinking:

Cheney:  Investments indicate no faith in U.S. Economy

What a patriot.

[ByeBye]

Originally posted by oboe
Last night I ran across a quote that reminded me of NUKE/ByeBye:

"Conceit is an unusual disease; it makes everyone sick but the one who has it."

No wonder he changed his BB handle.   To be fair, he had plenty of company here - it's just that his posts always struck me as among the most deluded.   It's that attitude of hubris and certainty that he has - and then to be completely wrong after all.   Just like GW.   To my mind, the enduring tragedy of Iraq is that almost everything that has happened was predictable.   Bush Sr even knew it back in '91.  

If anyone actually realizes what deep sheeit the U.S. is in regarding Iraq and its own financial future, they aren't saying much, or aren't given much attention.  Of course sometimes people's actions give away what they are thinking:

Cheney:  Investments indicate no faith in U.S. Economy

What a patriot.

Going to war in Iraq was the correct decision.

[ByeBye]

The only mistake we are making at the moment, is that we are not bombing the crap out of Iran and Syria.

[oboe]

Originally posted by ByeBye
Going to war in Iraq was the correct decision.

Of course it was, NUKE.   No doubt about it.    It was a tough call and took tremendous courage and sacrifice on your part, but I'm sure History will vindicate you.

[ByeBye]

Originally posted by oboe
Of course it was, NUKE.   No doubt about it.    It was a tough call and took tremendous courage and sacrifice on your part, but I'm sure History will vindicate you.  

You aren't Iranian, by any chance, are you?

It was a tough call for our President to make and Im glad he made the correct decision.

[Viking]

Oh my.