Author Topic: Poll: Complex Engine Management (Read 5334 times)

Bruv119 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 13, 2007, 12:53:09 PM »

Dont be silly

NO.

Toad · « **Reply #76 on:** January 13, 2007, 01:12:47 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
What he said---actually... engine NOT overheating or something after running it at 100% from takeoff for 20-30 min (or 19 min for you LA7 pukes) is a lil....I dunno, cartoonish--would be interesting tweak to the game I'd think

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During durability testing of the C series R-2800 by Republic, it was decided to find out at what manifold pressure and carburetor temperature caused detonation. The technicians at Republic ran the engine at extreme boost pressures that produced 3,600 hp! But wait, it gets even more amazing. They ran it at 3,600 hp for 250 hours, without any failure! This was with common 100 octane avgas. No special fuels were used. Granted, the engines were largely used up, but survived without a single component failure.

Somebody should have told them the engine wouldn't do that.

Brenjen · « **Reply #77 on:** January 13, 2007, 02:12:31 PM »

No. Too much hassle, the new AH has enough of that going already.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #78 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:20:01 PM »

From a player perspective: No. I have a hard enough time getting the plane down the runway as it is (cue Furball).

From a support perspective: OMG!!! ARE YOU INSANE!!!!!!

FLS · « **Reply #79 on:** January 13, 2007, 03:51:18 PM »

Noob: How do I start this thing?

Helpful Vet:What are you in?

Noob: Spit.

Helpful Vet: Set the fuel valve on. Ignition switch off. Open the throttle just a bit. Set propeller control full forward. Set idle cutoff full back. Set supercharger switch to auto. Set carburetor air intake closed. Switch on main tanks booster pump for 30 seconds then switch off and set idle cutoff forward to Run position. Switch ignition on and push starter and booster coil buttons, thats ctrl-alt-S and ctrl-alt-B, at the same time.

Noob: No really, how do you start this thing?

Helpful Vet: ...

Noob: Can I fly with a mouse or do I need a joystick?

Bronk · « **Reply #80 on:** January 13, 2007, 05:58:14 PM »

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Originally posted by FLS
Noob: How do I start this thing?

Helpful Vet:What are you in?

Noob: Spit.

Helpful Vet: Set the fuel valve on. Ignition switch off. Open the throttle just a bit. Set propeller control full forward. Set idle cutoff full back. Set supercharger switch to auto. Set carburetor air intake closed. Switch on main tanks booster pump for 30 seconds then switch off and set idle cutoff forward to Run position. Switch ignition on and push starter and booster coil buttons, thats ctrl-alt-S and ctrl-alt-B, at the same time.

Noob: No really, how do you start this thing?

Helpful Vet: ...

Noob: Can I fly with a mouse or do I need a joystick?

Bronk

Brooke · « **Reply #81 on:** January 13, 2007, 06:22:24 PM »

For me, the more realism, the better. I would like more-realistic engine control, for the same reason I like the game also modelling stalls, spins, blackouts, redouts, trim, etc.

However, I don't know if I'd make it mandatory -- perhaps being able to turn it on and off like the stall limiter.

I'd like the planes to have flight and operation characteristics that are as realistic as possible.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #82 on:** January 13, 2007, 06:25:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Gumbeau
I'm not really sure why people believe they would enjoy this other than some sort of ego thing.

I would enjoy it because my great desire is to fly real World War Two fighters. Obviously, I am never going to get to do this. Therefore, I seek a simulator which is as close as possible to flying a real warbird.

And it is fun; imagine getting bounced from up on high, and as your enemy's ship hurtles by you hear his engine screaming. He has forgotten to lower his R.P.M., and his propeller is overspeeding. Or when you're doing the bouncing, he firewalls the throttle from cruise settings and his engine konks out. I'd love it! And best of all, you're in a classic sustained turn fight, throttles wide open, and one of you has his engine go boom because you've been flying around all day on full throttle.

Anyway, I just wanted to see how many people would go with this. In parting, I would love to make a jab at you all by accusing you of being gamers with no desire to fly real airplanes. Unfortunately, some of you who don't want the complex engine management are actual pilots. I just don't understand it.

Benny Moore · « **Reply #83 on:** January 13, 2007, 06:31:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
"During durability testing of the C series R-2800 by Republic, it was decided to find out at what manifold pressure and carburetor temperature caused detonation. The technicians at Republic ran the engine at extreme boost pressures that produced 3,600 hp! But wait, it gets even more amazing. They ran it at 3,600 hp for 250 hours, without any failure! This was with common 100 octane avgas. No special fuels were used. Granted, the engines were largely used up, but survived without a single component failure."

Somebody should have told them the engine wouldn't do that.

Toad, I am fairly certain that these engine tests were done without propellers. It makes a big difference when there is no load. The same tests were done to the Allison V-1710 (the engine with the reputation for failing at high altitude) with the same results.

eagl · « **Reply #84 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:08:21 PM »

No.

AH already has a couple of things that give "full realism" players an edge, namely prop rpm control, changes in fuel burn at various altitude, and the ability to not use the easy-mode stall limiter. A player who uses the rpm control, uses a climb/cruise profile instead of just motoring around everywhere at low alittude, and turns off the stall limiter will (if they do it right) have an edge over a player who doesn't pay attention to such things.

Additional optional realism features might be nice, but only if they are optional and their proper use will give the players that actually use them a very small additional edge over people who just go with the default easy options.

SirLoin · « **Reply #85 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:21:12 PM »

What is prop rpm control?

kilz · « **Reply #86 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:23:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Angry Samoan
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NO

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detch01 · « **Reply #87 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:26:37 PM »

No. Even if I was sober I'd vote no. But, for a full, undamaged case of 60yr old Aberlour shipped to me cost free within the next three days I might be convinced to reconsider. For an unlimited lifetime's supply of said scotch I am prepared to promise you my vote in favour of your proposal.

asw

Karnak · « **Reply #88 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:38:02 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
Somebody should have told them the engine wouldn't do that.

Yeah, I remember a Spit pilot running his Merlin at WEP for half an hour straight after he panicced too. You know, that "Do not exceed 5 minutes" setting?

The engine was fine.

Emu · « **Reply #89 on:** January 13, 2007, 08:32:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Karnak
How do you fit that ego into a Bf109?